Ukrainian War Developments

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SteelBird

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CNN Updated Report on alleged Russian appeal to China:

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I don't expect this to happen but I am thinking that how would it be if China decides to send some of its military equipment for proving in battle field? Drone should be the best item in this case. Artillery should be another good item, such as long range rockets but I think Russia have a lot of this. so they don't need it. Standoff precision strike weapon is also very useful for Russian force but this requires China platform to launch. So it would be too expensive and take time for training.
 

Abominable

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That Japanese volunteer? He's gone too, hopped on a bus back to Poland. He issued an apology notice for bailing and wishes everyone to look after themselves.
If they were smart, they'll get out of Poland ASAP and go back to their home countries. Poland is a country that is very friendly to the Kiev regime and these guys can easily be arrested and sent back for the crime of desertion.

The Ukrainian military command seems to be a disorganised mess right now, but eventually they will come to realise this is very bad optics. When word gets out to the common Ukrainian infantryman that the professional western soldiers who came to save them are deserting like rats, they'll start to get cold feet too.

War has a few time honoured traditions that transends all cultures, and one is to never betray or abandon your brothers and desert. There's a reason deserters get shot in real wars. Wherever they go whatever they do they'll always be known as deserters, the word deserter will be written on their graves. :mad:
 
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tokenanalyst

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Put US Boots in Ukraine to Defend a UN-Approved Security Zone​

It worked in Syria.​

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Establish a Zone of Peace in Western Ukraine​

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This lunatics get paid to write the most insane crap ever.
This is unfeasible unless the U.S. is willing to risk a nuclear exchange with Russia or willing to accept the death of NATO military personal without retaliation.
 

Abominable

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Does anybody else have the bad feeling that, before this is over, dangerous bi, or even, multi-lateral nuclear-brinksmanship will come into play?
Nah, that already happened. Biden's ruled it out already and even the Russians are playing it down now. Things may heat up again but nowhere near as much as the first time.

There's a very small chance a country like Poland may try something unilaterally and get a limited nuclear attack in response, but again I highly doubt it.
 

Aegis21

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Put US Boots in Ukraine to Defend a UN-Approved Security Zone​

It worked in Syria.​

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Establish a Zone of Peace in Western Ukraine​

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This lunatics get paid to write the most insane crap ever.
This is unfeasible unless the U.S. is willing to risk a nuclear exchange with Russia or willing to accept the death of NATO military personal without retaliation.
What is that going to achieve? There are no hostilities in Western Ukraine apart from sporadic Russian strikes on military bases.
 

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Russia sends message to foreign mercenaries in Ukraine​


The military says it knows the location of all foreign fighters in Ukraine and vows to continue targeting them

Western governments encouraging their citizens to enlist in Ukraine will be responsible for their death, the Russian Ministry of Defense said Monday, vowing to continue the strikes such as the one that destroyed the Yavorov base and show no mercy to mercenaries.

“All locations of foreign mercenaries in Ukraine are known to us,” Russian military spokesman Major-General Igor Konashenkov said in a statement on Monday. “I want to warn you again – there will be no mercy for the mercenaries, no matter where they are on the territory of Ukraine.”

Konashenkov said a number of Western governments have encouraged their citizens to fight against Russian troops as mercenaries, adding that “all further responsibility for the death of this category of foreign citizens in Ukraine rests solely with the leadership of these countries.”

“Targeted strikes will continue,”
Konashenkov said, specifically referring to Sunday’s cruise missile attack on the military bases in Yavorov and nearby Starichi in western Ukraine.

According to Moscow, the missile salvo destroyed the facilities used by the “International Legion of Ukraine” and killed “up to 180 foreign fighters.”

Kiev officials said that 35 people were killed and 130 injured in the attack on the International Center for Peacekeeping and Security, the official name of the military base near Yavorov. It had been used for years by NATO personnel to train Ukrainian troops.
While Ukrainian authorities insist that no foreign fighters were killed in the strike, several
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have reported that three former UK special forces operatives died at Yavorov, and “many more killed within the site than has been claimed.” This has not been officially confirmed by London.

Meanwhile, Washington insisted no “US troops, contractors or civilian government workers” were present at Yavorov.
Moscow sent troops into Ukraine last month, citing seven years of failure by Kiev to implement the terms of the Minsk agreements and make peace with the breakaway regions of Donetsk and Lugansk. Russia had recognized the two Donbass republics as independent states just days earlier. Kiev has accused Moscow of an unprovoked attack.
 

Aegis21

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half true. they'll fly over when the tension starts building.

what will be different is that they won't have a Poland to escape to. When the PLAAF no fly zone goes up, when 039As are prowling the East China Sea, when DF-17s and JH-7As are making it rain, when the power is cut, when the cell phone returns just no signal... they won't be able to just say "nope I'm done". They're done when China is done.

They will be given a nice 5-10 year vacation to historically real reenactment of Siberian gulags. The experience includes a wheat gruel all you can eat package (as in fighting other prisoners for all you can eat) and digging holes to fill them back up.
Taiwan will be isolated and the mercenaries will have nowhere to run. No Poland, no Hungary, no Slovakia, only the Sea.
The Russians control the airspace. So any large movements of vehicles headed into Ukraine's frontlines will be spotted and destroyed.


Those numbers are BS. The Russian ground forces are almost triple that number.
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The report above is from 4 years ago when the Russians were still in the middle of beefing up their ground forces.
Even back then they already had more troops than that.

And that is not counting with reserves they could call upon. They massively expanded the size of the ground forces since 2014.
Then you have the Donbass militia also not in those numbers.
Russia has more Ratnik-2 suits in service than the total amount of troops in that list. And not all troops need to use Ratnik-2.
They have like 300,000+ Ratnik-2 suits.

The National Guard is not on those numbers. And Russia has 20,000 Chechens there alone which are not listed.
Chechens and Rosgvardia are probably meant as rear troops to occupy captured territory and fight resistance.
 
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