Ukrainian War Developments

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LawLeadsToPeace

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Just want to throw a heads up. Hu Wei is real lol. You can go on Baidu and check it out. People are insulting him right now on Weibo. As for Chinese think tanks and professors, I would disregard them if I were you. In the last few years, they have become increasingly obsequious to the West, but as we know, China, in general, didnt. So Hu Wei's article can be thrown into a trash can.

As for the article, for those who can read Chinese, here is an article in Chinese that did a brief overview of the guy's article. You can use Google Translate as well for a general understanding of the article:
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Oh, also, he loooves democracy:
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Abominable

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Easy. Give me the original document, in Chinese. MSM has a history of deliberately mistranslating Chinese documents, since majority of Westerners have zero interest in learning Chinese.
It was definitely written in English as becomes obvious to anyone who's read a translated document. Idioms and certain phrases are hard to translate between languages without losing their meaning, especially with Chinese. That was standard US think tank English, not a translated document.

Anyway I don't see what the big deal is. One person writes an article disagreeing with Chinese policy. In his mind China is like North Korea where everyone has to parrot the government line at all times and no independent thought is allowed.
 

GodRektsNoobs

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Just want to throw a heads up. Hu Wei is real lol. You can go on Baidu and check it out. People are insulting him right now on Weibo. As for Chinese think tanks and professors, I would disregard them if I were you. In the last few years, they have become increasingly obsequious to the West, but as we know, China, in general, didnt. So Hu Wei's article can be thrown into a trash can.
There are plenty of Chinese think tanks and professors that have a more realistic view of the world. But at the same time you could see the impact of Western cool-aid in policy circles. I think it serves to explain how Japan imposed "voluntary" restrictions on its export to US, "voluntarily" gave up its domestic market for US semiconductors, and "voluntarily" appreciated its currency.
 

james smith esq

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Most of these freedom fighter are probably ex-military or ex-police in western countries. They will learn what it is like to fight without air superiority and against a competent foe which most of these have probably never experienced.
Definitely not police from the US. Police, here, are concerned with only one thing, i. e., getting home alive after their shifts, no matter how many innocent lives they destroy during their shifts. Volunteering to go into guaranteed danger ain’t their m. o.!
 

noone536

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Why would an article a Chinese person wrote need to be translated into Chinese? More like his CIA contact wrote it in his name and got someone else to translate it.

It's also wrong about everything, another piece of western copium. This conflict suits China very well. We won't hear any more lies about concentration camps and COVID bioweapons, at least for a few months. NATO will be remilitarised but the Anglo dream of it being used against China is dead. Russia will be the new enemy and Europe and America will continue to accurate their decline by engaging in a cold war with them.

For the first week of the war, all we were hearing was that the Russian military was a wet paper bag. Pretty soon the media will forget all that and it'll become a bigger threat than the Soviet Union was to justify the massive military spending that's about to happen.

Before this war the poorer European countries were flirting with recognising Taiwan. Now I doubt even the major European countries will dare oppose China on anything. Lithuania is already fxxked thanks to America, and they may as well start learning Russian now.

As for the dream that China is going to sanction Russia for its operation in the Ukraine. Even if you hadn't shown yourself as China's enemy, China didn't sanction America after Iraq or Afghanistan.

The best thing for China to do is act as a mediator between the west and Russia once this war is over in a week or two and Ukraine is annexed. Drop your sanctions, and Russia will keep selling gas and return your mercenaries they captured.
i would just like to add a couple of things.
1. west never really care about the camps or covid bioweapons , it always has being just another political talking point from both side to show that they really care about the moral or security or w/e is their selling point. it never really took it seriously cause if they did, more could of being done like with heavier real sanctions. so no need to take it personally for china although it does seem so but hey big bog= easer target.
2. i agree with this point, but the matter of fact is Russia was NEVER as strong as they say they were, the military complex needs a bogie man to justify the $$. the navy is using china has one and the air force is using Russia. so it not that surprising with what's happening on the ground. lets not forget that even china defense budget is about 3 time bigger than the Russians, granted bigger military. ( also on side note all military have corruption is just the matter of how big, you can search USA navy southeast scandal, my point is don't be surprise by bad equipment and bad maintenance, but i do hope china will learn and crack down more esp. on the maintenance not saying that they have. ) so it would be true of what you say when Russia win Ukraine they will become a even bigger bogie man.

3. china is really in a no hurry here, they are in a win win situation, let's be honest Russia and USA are and were never really true friends, but i would say that Russia is chinas' bigger enemy and by them spending their $$ and military in the west it guarantees that their bark wont be as loud. ever since Stalin died china sees itself the next of kin for the communist saga. i think after this war they will finally accomplish that.
 

Michaelsinodef

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2. i agree with this point, but the matter of fact is Russia was NEVER as strong as they say they were, the military complex needs a bogie man to justify the $$. the navy is using china has one and the air force is using Russia. so it not that surprising with what's happening on the ground. lets not forget that even china defense budget is about 3 time bigger than the Russians, granted bigger military. ( also on side note all military have corruption is just the matter of how big, you can search USA navy southeast scandal, my point is don't be surprise by bad equipment and bad maintenance, but i do hope china will learn and crack down more esp. on the maintenance not saying that they have. ) so it would be true of what you say when Russia win Ukraine they will become a even bigger bogie man.

3. china is really in a no hurry here, they are in a win win situation, let's be honest Russia and USA are and were never really true friends, but i would say that Russia is chinas' bigger enemy and by them spending their $$ and military in the west it guarantees that their bark wont be as loud. ever since Stalin died china sees itself the next of kin for the communist saga. i think after this war they will finally accomplish that.
There's corruption everywhere (in different amounts and scale ofc), basically unavoidable (maybe in the future with better tech and AI?), with that said, with the crackdowns and focus on anti-corruption that has been undertaken under Xi it shouldn't be a 'big problem' nowadays.

And no, Russia isn't China's bigger enemy between Russia and the US, for a time during the cold war it might have been the case (USSR back then ofc) but that is no longer the case, the biggest enemy of China is the US simply because as China improves (economically, militarily etc.) it will be viewed as a serious threat to the US (and also kind of existential one).

Anyways, we should go back to topic about Ukraine war situation
 

Richard Santos

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i would just like to add a couple of things.
1. west never really care about the camps or covid bioweapons , it always has being just another political talking point from both side to show that they really care about the moral or security or w/e is their selling point. it never really took it seriously cause if they did, more could of being done like with heavier real sanctions. so no need to take it personally for china although it does seem so but hey big bog= easer target.
2. i agree with this point, but the matter of fact is Russia was NEVER as strong as they say they were, the military complex needs a bogie man to justify the $$. the navy is using china has one and the air force is using Russia. so it not that surprising with what's happening on the ground. lets not forget that even china defense budget is about 3 time bigger than the Russians, granted bigger military. ( also on side note all military have corruption is just the matter of how big, you can search USA navy southeast scandal, my point is don't be surprise by bad equipment and bad maintenance, but i do hope china will learn and crack down more esp. on the maintenance not saying that they have. ) so it would be true of what you say when Russia win Ukraine they will become a even bigger bogie man.

3. china is really in a no hurry here, they are in a win win situation, let's be honest Russia and USA are and were never really true friends, but i would say that Russia is chinas' bigger enemy and by them spending their $$ and military in the west it guarantees that their bark wont be as loud. ever since Stalin died china sees itself the next of kin for the communist saga. i think after this war they will finally accomplish that.
Russia is not china’s bigger enemy because the Russian economy is so small and under-developed, and the part of Russia that is most under threat is in Europe.

If the US had the wisdom of not pushing NATO boundary to Russian borders, and instead stroked Russia’s ego as another superpower whose sphere of influence must be respected despite Russia’s inability to back that up with economic power, then russia might see China as her greatest threat by virtue of unfavorable balance power and the exposed vulnerability Siberia, and thus became a major geopolitical problem for china as well.
But what the US needed in Wisdom, she was provided with conceit instead. Not only has the US needlessly made herself by far Russia’s greatest and most threatening existential enemy, she also, through this series of i’ll considered sanctions, likely rupture any residual relationship beyond possibility of repair. The US will never swallow her pride and give back Russia’s dollar reserves, nor is it easy to roll back the sanctions which have become enshrined in law rather than administered as mere policy, and Russia will never swallow her pride and cooperate with US on anything more than small tactical scale unless the dollar reserve is given back and major portion of legally mandates sanctions reversed.

So russia will always have a bigger enemy than china. so russia will be china’s friend. not necessarily an all weather friend, but as a good a friend to china as russia needs to be to Russia’s only really important friend.
 
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