Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

KenC

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In Australia, the vaccination drive is getting chaotic. There is widespread confusion and total lack of coordination between the general public, the appointed medical clinics, the suppliers and the authorities. And many are jittery about getting the vaccine given the the AstraZeneca has been put on hold in a number of countries. They just don't trust their politicians.



Some comments from the Youtuve viewers:

Guaranteed to work everytime 60 percent of the time with no side effects apart from the people that got side effects. If I advertised a product like this I'd be in jail but gov using it to make everyone get the shot

Back in the 50s they were lining up people and spraying them with D.D.T. telling them it was safe...same scenario here. P.S. D.D.T. is banned.

What kind of a nut job conspiracy theorist would want to be jab with this experimental vaccine

I'm not sure about all of Australia but from the comments here and around the lunch table at work no one wants it , i dont and i hope morrison isnt stupid enough to mandate it he would be putting his life in jeapody
 

emblem21

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In Australia, the vaccination drive is getting chaotic. There is widespread confusion and total lack of coordination between the general public, the appointed medical clinics, the suppliers and the authorities. And many are jittery about getting the vaccine given the the AstraZeneca has been put on hold in a number of countries. They just don't trust their politicians.



Some comments from the Youtuve viewers:

Guaranteed to work everytime 60 percent of the time with no side effects apart from the people that got side effects. If I advertised a product like this I'd be in jail but gov using it to make everyone get the shot

Back in the 50s they were lining up people and spraying them with D.D.T. telling them it was safe...same scenario here. P.S. D.D.T. is banned.

What kind of a nut job conspiracy theorist would want to be jab with this experimental vaccine

I'm not sure about all of Australia but from the comments here and around the lunch table at work no one wants it , i dont and i hope morrison isnt stupid enough to mandate it he would be putting his life in jeapody
Good. If his life is in jeopardy then serves him right for being a worthless human being being propped up but Rupert Murdoch who is another person I hope whose life will be in jeopardy for all the lies he has spreaded
 

Tyler

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China has two mRNA programs. They have NOTHING to do with any foreign companies. One team is headed by Zhong Nanshan (钟南山) and Zhang Biliang (张必良), the other is by 陈薇 (Chen Wei) and Qin Chengfeng (秦成峰) from Military Medicine Academy which also developed (headed by Chen Wei) the CanSino vaccine.

The news about Chen Wei/Qin Chengfeng's team

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Manufacturing facility began construction December 2020. To be completed in 8 months (August 2021), begin supply thereafter. Capacity 1.2 billion a year.

The Fosun Pharma thing is only about Fosun to distribute BioNTech vaccine in China. And we don't even know if it will ever materialize.

P.S. is it your habit (the 2nd time) to conclude "China's pharmaceutical capabilities are not world class" without seriously gathering information? ;)
How about this mRNA vaccine from Guangzhou?

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Fosun is already distributing Biontech vaccines in Hong Kong.
 

voyager1

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First, Slovakia Health Minister was sacked for trying to procure Russian vaccines. Now, they want to intimidate anyone from using Chinese or Russian vaccines.
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Is just the EU trying to cover up their shambles of vaccine procurement. So because China helps Hungary, and Serbia and some other countries, the EU dont want to give an opening for EU citizens to criticise the EU why other countries are vaccinating faster and they will open faster.

So the EU will ban the Chinese vaccines so that at least when these countries recieving chinese vaccines open then the EU wont allow these people to travel in the EU as a metaphorical "middle finger" to the EU "traitor" countries who didn't wait for EU vaccines.

don't pay attention to the EU, it is totally incompetent, see the scandal with stoping the AstraZeneca vaccine for political reasons to trash the company for the delays and just now the EU regulator announced it ia safe after all.

EU commision is incompetent and is doing blunders like these almost every 3-4 days
 

taxiya

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How about this mRNA vaccine from Guangzhou?

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For a full understanding of ongoing mRNA effort, read this article
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The SCMP article's title is about RiboBio which is member of Zhong Nanshan team.
  • Guangzhou RiboBio’s product, which has been tested on animals, has a shelf life of about six months when stored at between 2 to 8 degrees Celsius
Citing from the source:
钟南山院士团队新冠mRNA疫苗研发纳入国家科技计划

就在上周六,在中国工程院院士、国家呼吸系统疾病临床医学研究中心主任钟南山的组织下,中国科学院广州生物医药与健康研究院研究员、广州锐博生物创始人张必良面向中国的疫苗研发者们进行了新冠mRNA疫苗开发生产的项目汇报。


However the article's sub-title also mentioned the Chen Wei team
  • Scientists from the National Centre for Nanoscience and Technology of China also working on a vaccine with a nanocarrier-based delivery system
Citing from the source:
国家纳米中心陈薇院士团队合作疫苗新型载体

国家纳米中心团队正在和军事科学院陈薇院士团队合作进行疫苗新型纳米载体的研发!


The SCMP report is pretty confusing or messy, instead of reporting the lead scientists or lead organisations, they report the sub-contractors or member entities.

Zhong Nanshan is the member of China Academy of Engineering. Chen Wei is from MME. IMO, there won't be any other entities in China that can grasp expertise, resources and investments in the similar level as these two. So whatever names reported in the near future, it is probably about one of the two.
 
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