Re: US incursion in new Chinese ADIZ: no reaction from China
That's effectively what I predict as well Jeff, thanks for saying it so succintly.
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You know, the more I think about this, the more I wonder why China wanted an ADIZ in the first place.
I don't mean that in an arrogant way. Obviously China faces many regional threats and an ADIZ is long over due. But why an ADIZ over the disputed islands as well? That will obviously lead to an increase in risky encoutners that may lead to incidents.
China knows this, and they also know that starting a limited shooting war isn't in their interest.
So I can't help but wonder if this is the first chip in their maneuver to make the Japanese come to the negotiating table.
I've read that China has been creating overtures to Japan to negotiate since last year, but after Japan bought the islands effectively Japan rebuffed every attempt to talk on the subject. (I think this was china daily, I can't remember)
Anyway, an ADIZ overlap over the islands means both sides will hopefully want to sit down and at least talk about some risk reduction measures. That would be the first step to negotiation, and I bet China is hoping that their new bargaining chips will draw Japan back to the negotiating table regarding the disputed islands.
Of course Japan could continue to hold onto their claim and just live out the mutual phototaking of JASDF and PLAAF, heightening tensions for everyone. I expect they would also seek even more rigorously to find nations to build an anti-China alliance as well. Of course that will only result in further tensions in the region.
It's a shame to think this entire debacle is about three bare rocks (and of course over a century of bloodshed and bad history). I think negotiations is the best route for all.
The crux of this whole issue is two fold:
1) The ADIZ itself and the use of it to defend the Chinese main land or holdings against aggressive posture flights approaching them. With todays aircraft and their speed, clearly seeing something approaching if possible at some distance gives the nation time to respond, warn off the approaching aircraft, and then intercept it if necessary. This is relative common practice, as is the practice of some nations to test that response from time to time.
2) The Island dispute. In this issue, which is really the focal point, the PRC is looking to establish more influence and control in the area around the islands. The Japanese have long administered those islands, and have conducted maritime patrol flights over and around them. They intend to continue to do this. They most definitely will not provide flight plans or transponder information to the Chinese regarding them. The Japanese view such a situation as an escalation away from the current status quo, as does the US>
The US has now tested the ADIZ with military aircraft flying over the island. There was no response. This does not mean that the Chinese now, or in the future will not respond, but it does set a precedent that I fully expect the JMSDF will now also test.
If the Chinese respond against the JMSDF, I expect it to be tense the first time or two and hopefully emotions and knee jerk reactions will not intercede and you will have Chinese military aircraft watching and taking pictures of Japanese military aircraft, and vice versa. If that holds, then a new status quo will develop as both nations use their military aircraft to fly over the islands.
The only way to prevent that from becoming the new status quo is either for the PRC to use military force against Japan to keep their aircraft from flying there. I do not expect, short of a severe miscalculation, for that to happen. At this point it is not the PRC intent (I believe) to drive the Japanese away from there, just to establish themselves with parity there.
The only way the Japanese can prevent that from happening, is to do likewise. I also do not expect that to happen. I do expect the Japanese will scramble their F-15Js should PLAAF or PLAN J-10s or J-15s intercept their maritime aircraft. This hopefully will be enough "show of force," to satisfy both sides. I do not think either sides wants, or is pushing for, a shooting war.
That being the case, at this time, I really do not see a way for the Japanese to prevent this new status quo from taking effect.
That's effectively what I predict as well Jeff, thanks for saying it so succintly.
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You know, the more I think about this, the more I wonder why China wanted an ADIZ in the first place.
I don't mean that in an arrogant way. Obviously China faces many regional threats and an ADIZ is long over due. But why an ADIZ over the disputed islands as well? That will obviously lead to an increase in risky encoutners that may lead to incidents.
China knows this, and they also know that starting a limited shooting war isn't in their interest.
So I can't help but wonder if this is the first chip in their maneuver to make the Japanese come to the negotiating table.
I've read that China has been creating overtures to Japan to negotiate since last year, but after Japan bought the islands effectively Japan rebuffed every attempt to talk on the subject. (I think this was china daily, I can't remember)
Anyway, an ADIZ overlap over the islands means both sides will hopefully want to sit down and at least talk about some risk reduction measures. That would be the first step to negotiation, and I bet China is hoping that their new bargaining chips will draw Japan back to the negotiating table regarding the disputed islands.
Of course Japan could continue to hold onto their claim and just live out the mutual phototaking of JASDF and PLAAF, heightening tensions for everyone. I expect they would also seek even more rigorously to find nations to build an anti-China alliance as well. Of course that will only result in further tensions in the region.
It's a shame to think this entire debacle is about three bare rocks (and of course over a century of bloodshed and bad history). I think negotiations is the best route for all.