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TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
It should be obvious some of us are of a different mind set... Well a lot of us Twitter is trending a #betterbatmanthenbenafflack and it viral. Here is my anti argument in this particular case you have a established highly capable actor in Henry calvill who proved he could add drama, master a American accents perform physically and emotionally,even getting the audience to feel saddened for him despite the fact that he is a virtual god.
in other words the a game.
now batman Ben Affleck? His only attempt at coming close was dare devil but the two characters are nothing alike. You need a total mind set for batman. You also need to perform as batman. Playing batman is playing batman playing Bruce Wayne. The range is wide. But at its core cold. Batman is physical and emotionally demanding. We have seen big named actor's in the role and watched them all fail. George Clooney, Val Kilmer both tried but the mind set was wrong. The attitude. You need a actor who knows the role and can stand up as a equal if not superior to Clark. Ben Affleck's range is best as not a leader.but a player, conman, looser, regular shmo, non of which work for batman. He is not the right man. If this was the flash I could say maybe. Or maybe one of the other green lanterns or even aqua man.
but trying to play a weak batman against a strong superman is going to fail.
 

vesicles

Colonel
It should be obvious some of us are of a different mind set... Well a lot of us Twitter is trending a #betterbatmanthenbenafflack and it viral. Here is my anti argument in this particular case you have a established highly capable actor in Henry calvill who proved he could add drama, master a American accents perform physically and emotionally,even getting the audience to feel saddened for him despite the fact that he is a virtual god.
in other words the a game.
now batman Ben Affleck? His only attempt at coming close was dare devil but the two characters are nothing alike. You need a total mind set for batman. You also need to perform as batman. Playing batman is playing batman playing Bruce Wayne. The range is wide. But at its core cold. Batman is physical and emotionally demanding. We have seen big named actor's in the role and watched them all fail. George Clooney, Val Kilmer both tried but the mind set was wrong. The attitude. You need a actor who knows the role and can stand up as a equal if not superior to Clark. Ben Affleck's range is best as not a leader.but a player, conman, looser, regular shmo, non of which work for batman. He is not the right man. If this was the flash I could say maybe. Or maybe one of the other green lanterns or even aqua man.
but trying to play a weak batman against a strong superman is going to fail.

Com'on! The only reason for you to hate Affleck is his Dardevil. It is bad, lets make no mistake about it. However, the director of the movie should bare most of the blame as the director decides everything about the movie. And screen writers came up with the story and all the lines. An actor, however good he is, can only do what the director wants.

Similarly, Cavill successfully played the superman because Zack Snyder did an excellent job as a director. Snyder had an idea of what superman should do and how he should behave. And it worked. And it is the same Snyder who picked Affleck to be Batman. If you think Snyder is a good director, you should at least give some benefit of doubt to Affleck. Also, Nolan must've also been involved in the decision making. If Bo Nolan and Snyder believeb Affleck can do it, why do we doubt?

Also, Bale never played any leader before he became Batman. He mostly played little guys as well.

Again, most of your reasoning should be blamed on the director, not the actor. It is the director who decides mind set, not the actor. That's why the directors of those old Batman movies got most of the blame. The actors, including Clooney and Kilmer, did not get hurt too much.
 
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Equation

Lieutenant General
Com'on! The only reason for you to hate Affleck is his Dardevil. It is bad, lets make no mistake about it. However, the director of the movie should bare most of the blame as the director decides everything about the movie. And screen writers came up with the story and all the lines. An actor, however good he is, can only do what the director wants.

Similarly, Cavill successfully played the superman because Zack Snyder did an excellent job as a director. Snyder had an idea of what superman should do and how he should behave. And it worked. And it is the same Snyder who picked Affleck to be Batman. If you think Snyder is a good director, you should at least give some benefit of doubt to Affleck. Also, Nolan must've also been involved in the decision making. If Bo Nolan and Snyder believeb Affleck can do it, why do we doubt?

Also, Bale never played any leader before he became Batman. He mostly played little guys as well.

Again, most of your reasoning should be blamed on the director, not the actor. It is the director who decides mind set, not the actor. That's why the directors of those old Batman movies got most of the blame. The actors, including Clooney and Kilmer, did not get hurt too much.



I can understand the artistic view points, but the problem is one can change the Daredevil (Ben Afleck) into a Bat suit, but you still get the Daredevil in the end. Therefore L-A-M-E.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
I remind you player 0 was trying to use dare devil as defense of bat-Affleck. Sorry but still no bat-Affleck is out of his depth. Bale played a lot of heavyweight characters before he became batman, it was mostly Indy and English stuff but American psyco sold him he showed he could play Bruce Wayne the rich playboy have the depth of the true Bruce Wayne the Disturbed tourchered victimized soul and batman the driven empowerment of vengeance. Bat-Affleck has never shown that he could Handel that when he has tried to it has come of as tripe. He to much in love with himself. His characters all become him not him becoming the character.
 
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siegecrossbow

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This has to be the most wtf Warner decision since splitting up with legendary. Probably need dark knight trilogy and dcau marathons to wash the bad taste out of my mouth now!
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
The problem with Ben Affleck is he doesn't have a good track record in acting. He got a Golden Globe nomination for Hollywoodland where he played the actor George Reeves who played Superman. But the Golden Globes is laughed at in whispers in Hollywood for just being an excuse for a bunch foreign reporters every year getting their opportunity to meet their favorite movie stars. A lot of A-list actors are in fact not great actors. George Clooney... Julia Roberts... not a lot of range in their acting. They basically play the same person in every movie. They're one-trick ponies. People forget Hollywood is not just about film and television industries. It's also about the industry of celebrity. A lot of people hate Kim Kardashian for being famous for doing nothing except the notoriety of having her sex tape exposed to the public. Yet she makes something around $30 million every year. Being a celebrity is enough to get people to follow her which is enough to make her that much money. And she's only getting a fraction of what's being made from her celebrity. One may be a great actor but not a big celebrity. The thing is they want an actor with celebrity. Henry Cavill doesn't have the name recognition yet of one. So Ben Affleck was most likely chosen to fill-in that gap they need for the Man of Steal franchise.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Wow, thanks for posting the fire arms for comparison. Although we're still a long way from seeing the modified M202A1 FLASH launching missiles into space like in Elysium. This bad boy was also in the movie Commando.
well I know its late but I went to see a Elysium. I loved it. I really loved the South African bad guys.
By the way as I was watching and saw the AK on the big screen I had a brain wave. Its not a stock AK. It's supposed to be a modified Alliance armament AK .460 that is to say a American made custom AK clone that fires a .460 calibre round. For our metric lovers that's a 11mm 327-405 grain bullet give or take a few after the decimal point.
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its still a little small to air burst but way more reasonable then a 7.62x39mm round.
 

mr.bean

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I think people are being too hard on Affleck, even if he did bad in Daredevil, i think he has potential to deliver a good performance, like in Hollywoodland.

Just steer clear of the Frank Miller fanwank bullshit.

after the travesty of daredevil ben Affleck should have been banned to do any more superhero films. this is the worst decision ever made by a Hollywood producer. ben Affleck looks more like a manager for Costco than batman!
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
I usually try not to jump on bandwagons, but I also struggle to picture Affleck as a convincing Batman. He just has not demonstrated that he has the art and depth to play role such as that because he never really assumes a role in films and supresses himself so much as play himself in different situations.

Affleck's own personally is just too much of an emo pansy to do the role justice. I can see him take one punch and just well right up with quivering lips and all. He might make an interesting Ridder, but Batman? If he pulls it off, he deserves and Oscar.

I really think they should have picked a talented newcomer rather than fall into the star power trap and try to shoehorn an ill suited A-lister into the role purely for star power. If that was the intention, it failed already because of all the bad press.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
well I know its late but I went to see a Elysium. I loved it. I really loved the South African bad guys.
By the way as I was watching and saw the AK on the big screen I had a brain wave. Its not a stock AK. It's supposed to be a modified Alliance armament AK .460 that is to say a American made custom AK clone that fires a .460 calibre round. For our metric lovers that's a 11mm 327-405 grain bullet give or take a few after the decimal point.
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its still a little small to air burst but way more reasonable then a 7.62x39mm round.

That same bad guy played the leading role in District 9 (Sharlto Copley), heck even he makes a better Batman than Ben Afleck.
 
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