Chinese SAM

[vincelee]

newsmax................

you would think people would stop quoting that as a source.

 

[crazyinsane105]

Vinclee has a point. I don't think people on this forum should quote from newsmax anymore.

 

[Gollevainen]

The wreck (or most of it attleast) is on held at the aviation museum in Beograd. They are even selling pieces of it to tourist so if everyone is sailing down Tonava, go and grab a piece of it to amuse rest of us.

But Russians examined the wreck...and propaply took something with them, im not sure...

 

[crazyinsane105]

Actually, I don't think it would be safe to grab a piece of it. When the plane was shot down, I remember seeing on the ABC News that there were many women dancing on the wreakage. The ABC News Cast was informed that the women would later get cancer because the paint used on the plane is not safe to inhale.

 

[Roger604]

china, i beilive, has built an f-22 shell for testing its stealthyness. seeimg how the frame is the prime component to rcs, testing a radar on it would be superb. russia has also developed soem stelthy aircraft, in which it probably tests new radars on.

slackpiv, it doesnt matter how russian the s-300 is. china has it, produces it indegedously, anjd has developed more advanced missles off of it, and plans to upgrade it. this proves china understands 100% of the s-300s technology, therefore putting china at that level, if not further.

I read that S-400 is now operational. This is going to be Russian's main line defense against stealth bomber strikes. Some here said earlier that China was closely involved in the S-400 development? Does this mean that we can pump out our own "S-400" in the near future too?

 

[MIGleader]

newsmax is terrible. it said one time that china was buying s-300s to counter american patriot missle attacks :roll:

i think china might simply want to upgrade all s-300s pmus and hq-15s in the arsenal to s-400 standard. the s-400 is a highly capable missle, but is really only an improved s-300. the russians just like the big numbers to impress customers. i think china will start locally producing s-400s, and a navalized varient will certainly appear.

 

[slackpiv]

but the concept is well-known.

How is the concept well known if the concept is based on speculation and cannot be validated.

I read that S-400 is now operational. This is going to be Russian's main line defense against stealth bomber strikes. Some here said earlier that China was closely involved in the S-400 development? Does this mean that we can pump out our own "S-400" in the near future too?

The s-400 will work against stealthy bombers such as the B-1b at long ranges. But the range that it will be able to detect the B-2 or the F-117 will be severely limited. Unless any country other than the US will be able to understand the classified stealth technology that the US employs, a radar that can detect stealth aircraft will not be possible.

slackpiv, it doesnt matter how russian the s-300 is. china has it, produces it indegedously, anjd has developed more advanced missles off of it, and plans to upgrade it. this proves china understands 100% of the s-300s technology, therefore putting china at that level, if not further.

When did china produce the s-300 indigenously? What more dvanced missile based on the s-300 did China develop? Even if China develops a missile thats more capable than the s-300, how does that mean China's SAM technology will be more advanced than the Russians? There are different versions of the s-300, there's the s-400, and then there's the fact that the Russians are a lot more experianced.

china, i beilive, has built an f-22 shell for testing its stealthyness. seeimg how the frame is the prime component to rcs, testing a radar on it would be superb. russia has also developed soem stelthy aircraft, in which it probably tests new radars on.

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How do you the airframe is the prime component to RCS? This is classified technology. How would China get the exact dimensions of the f-22 in the first place? Where did you discover this information?

 

[darth sidious]

slackpiv

china has built the S-300 chek sino defence for start they also have built the naval verson as seen on the 052c

missilethreat.com also has some good info

 

[slackpiv]

It has been suggested that China intends to obtain a license to produce the S-300 missile system locally, with a designation reported as HQ-15. The first Chinese copy has been tested, but all the components of the first copy version were imported from Russia.

The naval system is the HQ-9.

but the slow progress in the development forced the PLA to purchase the S-300PMU missile from Russia. By the time the HQ-9 was ready for operational deployment in the late 1990s, the missile was already behind foreign air-defence missiles such as U.S. PAC3 and Russian S-300PMU2 in terms of technology and performance. Only a small number of the HQ-9A are being deployed by the PLA for operational trial and evaluations. The naval variant of the HQ-9A is deployed onboard the Type 052C destroyer which was commissioned in 2004.

All from sinodefence

 

[darth sidious]

NO

do you tink pla will only buy Russian missile !!!

ps the first copies were made in the early 90s

look for info on the HQ-15/16