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Kalum Pupeter

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Polestar says Trump administration forcing it to end US sales​

  • Polestar will not be allowed to sell cars in the U.S from model year 2027
  • 6% of its sales in the first quarter came from the U.S
  • Move latest crackdown on Chinese vehicles by Washington
  • Other carmakers scrambling to get authorization
Polestar said on Thursday the Trump administration ‌was forcing the electric-vehicle maker to stop selling vehicles in the United States beginning in the 2027 model year as Washington ramps up its crackdown on Chinese vehicles.
The U.S. Department of Commerce did not grant Polestar authorization to sell cars under the Connected Vehicles Rule, which restricts the import and sale of cars with connected-vehicle technology linked to China beginning with the 2027 model year.

Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, cellular connectivity and some satellite communications technologies are covered under the rules based on national security concerns linked to the ability of vehicles to collect sensitive data on American owners.
The rule was ⁠adopted in January 2025 under President Joe Biden, and has been kept in place under Trump.
The action marks the latest major move from the U.S. towards banning cars
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and exported from China, as Washington pushes to strengthen the domestic carmaking industry.
Lawmakers have proposed legislation to tighten the restrictions further. Imports of Chinese EVs also face hefty tariffs.

The Sweden-based company, which is majority-owned by China's Geely Holding (GEELY.UL), said it will continue to sell existing Polestar 3 and Polestar 4 vehicles in the U.S. and will also provide access to its service network.
The Commerce Department did not immediately comment.
Polestar had warned as early as 2024 that the connected vehicle rules would
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" the automaker from selling vehicles in the United States, including cars made domestically.
"The automotive industry is entering a new phase, based on regional dynamics. Our strategy reflects that, with Europe being our largest growth engine and our plan to manufacture Polestar 7 in Europe," Polestar CEO Michael Lohscheller said.
Polestar has increasingly pivoted toward Europe as sales in the U.S. remain ‌sluggish due ⁠to growing competitive pressures and slower consumer spending.

Only 6% of its first-quarter sales came from the United States, compared with 78% from Europe.
Polestar has struggled to turn a profit and has required repeated capital injections from its owner Geely and chairman Li Shufu.
Its shares have fallen sharply, forcing the company to carry out a reverse stock split last year to maintain its Nasdaq listing.
Ford and other automakers are scrambling to obtain U.S. government authorization to continue selling models that have been in U.S. showrooms for years, but have recently ⁠come under fire as part of the ban.
Polestar's sister brand and co-founder, Volvo Cars said in May it
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an authorization, though it said it still must meet the rule's specifications across its lineup sold in the U.S. The company confirmed it needed a specific authorization because of its ownership structure.

The decision raises questions about the future of the Polestar 3, its only U.S.-manufacture ⁠model.
Volvo Cars - which
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some of Polestar's cars - said in March it would consolidate production of the Polestar 3 at its South Carolina plant, rather than also building the model in Chengdu, China.
A Volvo spokesperson told Reuters on Thursday that production in China has not yet been halted. Volvo said it was too early to say ⁠whether Thursday's development would alter those plans.
Amid tariff pressures, Polestar has opted to refresh aging models rather than launch entirely new ones.
It expects deliveries of a new Polestar 4 variant to begin later this year, followed by a revamped of the sedan Polestar 2 in 2027.
The automaker's next fully new model, the compact Polestar 7 SUV, is slated for production at Volvo's planned factory in Slovakia.
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What is the exact reason the PRC allows American car companies to sell vehicles in China? They should expel three of them.
 

tokenanalyst

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What is the exact reason the PRC allows American car companies to sell vehicles in China? They should expel three of them.
Because in the last 10 years after Obama, the US government is in the job to ensure that people in the US don't have manufacturing jobs. Exaggerated export controls, tariffs on raw materials, datacenters increasing energy and water prices and scaring manufacturing investment.
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Chinese politicians are engineers no lawyers and also IMO I think a bit smarter. Half of Tesla cars are made in Shanghai this generate Jobs and tax revenue.
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In think the Chinese government doesn't need to do anything drastic and leave thousands unemployed because they know that Tesla, pretty much like SpaceX, XAI and almost every single Elon Musk ventures is just a hot air balloon that will eventually fail like most of Elon overhyped ventures. BYD and others are going gradually take over Tesla market share and the company footprint will be taken over by domestic companies, workers will shift from Tesla factories to domestic ones.
 

iewgnem

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There has been some discourse on Twitter recently around Americans realizing they're not on China's level, but I will say even China pilled Americans can't seem overcome the American in them.

I mean, if China has all the manufacturing, what does it matter if America wants or don't want to do with respect to India, America has no capital nor know how to affect things in either direction.

 

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For reference, that article is based directly on this report from CASI:
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View attachment 177128

Some rather "interesting" takes from the report, as highlighted by Ayi, including but not limited to:
- "OSINT sources prove that J-16D has not been inducted on a large scale"
- "China's SEAD is still based on ancient Soviet-style SEAD"
- "China has no unmanned aerial vehicles"

Even more "interesting" is that the author actually took the movie plot from the "Sky Hunter" (空天猎) movie from 2017 as if those are PLAAF's SEAD combat models.

Yes, the fvcking CASI, under the Department of the Air Force and could be regarded as one of the most authoritative sources on PLAAF developments out there.

Holy sh1t, and we thought that the recent annual CMPRs by the Pentagon were already bad enough.
Imagine a PLAAF officer's report: "To keep up with the USAF's latest tactics, we have seriously reviewed Top Gun: Maverick. The USAF believes that heavy fighters like the F-14 should be able to dogfight the Su-57 and win, absolutely."
 

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Imagine a PLAAF officer's report: "To keep up with the USAF's latest tactics, we have seriously reviewed Top Gun: Maverick. The USAF believes that heavy fighters like the F-14 should be able to dogfight the Su-57 and win, absolutely."
Given the quality of Skyhunter this is more like PLAAF official gleaming USAF tactics from an Iron Eagle sequel.
 

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What is the exact reason the PRC allows American car companies to sell vehicles in China? They should expel three of them.
GM should definitely be the first target. They have been extremely active lobbying for action against Chinese EVs, are likely stealing Chinese battery tech through their China JVs, and as of a couple days ago just signed an agreement to supply weapon parts to Lockheed Martib
 

FriedButter

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OpenAI: China likely behind anti-data center campaign in US​

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I wonder if OpenAI will ramp up the anti-Chinese propaganda to blame China for the price hikes soon.

Apple hiking prices by +20-30% across all their products. The cheapest iPad with binned A16 chips and 6 GB ram for $449.

Xbox hiking all the console prices with the cheapest X series costing $749 without the disc reader.

Microsoft is raising the price of Xbox consoles by $100-$150​

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GM should definitely be the first target. They have been extremely active lobbying for action against Chinese EVs, are likely stealing Chinese battery tech through their China JVs, and as of a couple days ago just signed an agreement to supply weapon parts to Lockheed Martib
Nah it should be general dynamics because they have a complete monopoly on the US armored vehicles. They dont even manufacture tanks from scratch. If they are hit then the US army would just fall apart because NAFOs forget that quantity is a quality of its own.
 
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