QBZ-191 service rifle family

[LawLeadsToPeace]

He did mention that he couldn't shoot the qbz-191. Apparently, they used to only fire 5-10 bullets total on each exercise. It would be like 150 rounds a year. Gotta wait what they say.

Adding to my previous post, was he an HJ-8/HJ-12 or a HJ-10 gunner? Those two roles are in two completely different types of units.

 

[baozi]

I'm curious about the training you received for rifle qualifications without violating operational security. How many rronds do you all fire a year? I know that it takes a quite a lot of rounds to get proficient for civilians and soldiers here in the United States.

Unfortunately, we do not have much shooting training. We spend most of the year training with anti-tank missiles.

 

[baozi]

补充一下我之前的帖子，他是红箭-8/红箭-12还是红箭-10的机枪手？这两个角色属于两种完全不同的部队。

我们有重型反坦克导弹，也就是红箭10。自动步枪对于我们来说只是自卫武器，所以对步枪射击的要求不是太高。

 

[CrazyHorse]

He did mention that he couldn't shoot the qbz-191. Apparently, they used to only fire 5-10 bullets total on each exercise. It would be like 150 rounds a year. Gotta wait what they say.

That’s like REALLY bad. How the hell can they afford aircraft carriers an stealth jets, but can’t let frontline troops get enough range time.

 

[Kejora]

That’s like REALLY bad. How the hell can they afford aircraft carriers an stealth jets, but can’t let frontline troops get enough range time.

He's an anti tank weapon operator, support troops usually doesn't get as much range time with rifle, they focus their training on their weapon system.

Unfortunately, we do not have much shooting training. We spend most of the year training with anti-tank missiles.

Also, outside of special forces western soldiers don't spend thousands of ammo a year at range.
https://www.reddit.com/r/army/comments/qla54l

 

[bsdnf]

HJ-10 operators are basically meant to be more than 5 km away from the contact line, basically the last generation of FPV operators, no point in firing too many live rifle rounds.

 

[LawLeadsToPeace]

我们有重型反坦克导弹，也就是红箭10。自动步枪对于我们来说只是自卫武器，所以对步枪射击的要求不是太高。

Ah that makes a lot of sense then. Rifles are definitely a lower priority then for you guys.

 

[Salvationist]

Is there any word on the CSLR17 Rifle?

 

[Boneroyalx]

Is there any word on the CSLR17 Rifle?

The scar thing? I thought the export qbz-191s would get more traction.

 

[Salvationist]

The scar thing? I thought the export qbz-191s would get more traction.

I'm wagering that it probably turned out to be too expensive like that prototype AK12. AFAIK the qbz 95 is the one that was being exported worldwide.

That’s like REALLY bad. How the hell can they afford aircraft carriers an stealth jets, but can’t let frontline troops get enough range time.

this is something that happens with the US military too iirc. My buddy there didnt get to shoot much although he's not a combat role. When there's an ungodly amount of money spent on R&D, you don't have a lot of room left for firearms training.