QBZ-191 service rifle family

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Boneroyalx

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I'm wagering that it probably turned out to be too expensive like that prototype AK12. AFAIK the qbz 95 is the one that was being exported worldwide.

this is something that happens with the US military too iirc. My buddy there didnt get to shoot much although he's not a combat role. When there's an ungodly amount of money spent on R&D, you don't have a lot of room left for firearms training.
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I would wagger it might have been too complex and costly. Most of the china's clients are developing countries seeking cheap small arms to properly arm their military and police with no political restrictions or strings attached.

More often than not, even optics are a luxury reserved for elite units, so a fancy scar thing being able to swap calibers wouldn't be a cost effective trait.

In Venezuela we have a moderate amount of cs/ls7 for mp5 replacement, a small amount of cf/05, and a certain amount of qbz-97b, and I have been seeing footage of the militia practicing with it. There are other guns like cs/ls04.

Also, China already sold 5.56 qbz-191 to Thailand, so there already is some success.
 
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Boneroyalx said:
Oh. I guess that most of the interest is the cheaper guns, or there is something about the qbz-191 that they don't find attractive enough to buy for their clientele.
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It's more expensive than an AK with some functions from the AR series. Most people just stick with either the AR series or AK series. Kinda weird how guns with features from both tend not to be adopted by most people except the gun makers themselves.
 
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Apparently, the qbz-95b
Aniah said:
It's more expensive than an AK with some functions from the AR series. Most people just stick with either the AR series or AK series. Kinda weird how guns with features from both tend not to be adopted by most people except the gun makers themselves.
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I read from one source that a qbz-95 costs 450$ for a large order, so it makes sense why would a cash strapped country would buy the gun if they need a dirt cheap assault rifle that isn't an AK, and particularly if the country has a strong political and economic alignment with China.

Big mystery there is that I don't know how much a qbz-191 costs to produce, which could influence why there are no buyers. Maybe some obscure source could have a purchase references with the PAP.
 
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qwerty3173

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Boneroyalx said:
Apparently, the qbz-95b

I read from one source that a qbz-95 costs 450$ for a large order, so it makes sense why would a cash strapped country would buy the gun if they need a dirt cheap assault rifle that isn't an AK, and particularly if the country has a strong political and economic alignment with China.

Big mystery there is that I don't know how much a qbz-191 costs to produce, which could influence why there are no buyers. Maybe some obscure source could have a purchase references with the PAP.
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The price is in the 1000-1500 usd range I've heard.
 
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