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Randomuser

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Right now is the best time in history for all countries in the globe to move away from the US without fearing retaliation because the latter has too much on it's plate to handle, while the former can benefit from mutual support of other countries doing the same.
They can but they won't.

Most countries are like normies. They only come to the party once everything has already being set up. There's only a few early adopters in this world.

China was criticized for not using democracy, having an internet firewall, having its own tech ecosystem etc. They were seen as backward people afraid of modern things. Now people are realizing they were simply ahead of the curve and everyone else was just regurgitating the same western crap.
 

bebops

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Many countries want to switch sides but they can't. Before they had no choice but to be on US side.

many countries want to be a psuedo friend with US to avoid getting bombed or sanction. When there's an alternative option presented, many countries will side over to China.
 

_killuminati_

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Many countries want to switch sides but they can't. Before they had no choice but to be on US side.

many countries want to be a psuedo friend with US to avoid getting bombed or sanction. When there's an alternative option presented, many countries will side over to China.
But they have a choice now. I think if China pressed a bit harder then many countries would switch sides immediately. They want security. But it appears to me that China doesn't like to get involved much in foreign politics directly, of which I've contemplated before - if US keeps meddling in foreign affairs to cut off other countries from China (like Nepal recently), how does China counter?
 

Lethe

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Standard Australian narrative re: Pacific Island nations in the Australian Financial Review
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: nefarious Chinese influence bad, benevolent Australian influence good. But this bit made me laugh:

The duelling approach to aid was on full display in the days before the summit, in a high-profile display of competitive gift giving. Beijing announced a $1.5 million donation of 27 luxury Chinese SUVs to ferry leaders including Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese around town, on the same day that Australia offered a $5.2 million fleet of 61 security vehicles to assist the Royal Solomon Islands Police Force.

The contrast was telling. One Australian official on the ground noted the Chinese luxury vehicles would be of little practical use once the summit ended, with few mechanics on the ground to service them. By contrast, Canberra’s offering will be handed over to provincial police forces for ongoing use after the summit.

Helpfully, the article supplied a photo of these "luxury Chinese SUVs" and, well, they're GWM Tank 500s, i.e. an eminently mainstream and practical 4x4 body-on-frame SUV that carries a pricetag (private buyer, NSW) in Australia of AUD $65k-$74k. Not exactly Yangwang U8s...

Even more helpfully, the Solmon Islands government published articles announcing the receipt of both
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vehicles. The latter notes that most of the Australian-donated vehicles are Ford Ranger XLTs. The 4x4 version of that vehicle carries a pricetag (again, private buyer, NSW) of AUD $69k-$76k. Obviously these prices do not reflect the actual cost of the vehicles to the respective donating governments, but it illustrates that they are in the same ballpark.

To summarise:

Australian-donated 4x4 body-on-frame ute: eminently practical vehicle.
Chinese-donated 4x4 body-on-frame SUV: impractical luxury vehicle.

Next time someone tells you that China wants to replace the US to be the next hegemony:

The authors of this paper were featured on a
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of the Sinica podcast.
 
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han1289

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But they have a choice now. I think if China pressed a bit harder then many countries would switch sides immediately. They want security. But it appears to me that China doesn't like to get involved much in foreign politics directly, of which I've contemplated before - if US keeps meddling in foreign affairs to cut off other countries from China (like Nepal recently), how does China counter?

Just trade and security isn’t enough; for countries to jump ship China needs to offer a viable alternative to the USD. The day that happens is the end of US hegemony.

Why is also why Trump is attacking BRICS so hard and forcing India to publicly commit to the dollar.
 

Ringsword

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Just trade and security isn’t enough; for countries to jump ship China needs to offer a viable alternative to the USD. The day that happens is the end of US hegemony.

Why is also why Trump is attacking BRICS so hard and forcing India to publicly commit to the dollar.
People must never forget-USA/west despite going through the uncertainty and chaos of this Trump era will NEVER align with China no matter what and given a conflict with USA/west will have the USA/Five Eyes/Europe/vassals will put aside all their differences and eagerly attack China,whose success will be seen as a threat and a source of jealousy/hatred by them-no naivete nor stupidity is the call of today.
 

FriedButter

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Authorities have “no idea” whether Kirk’s shooter is still in Utah, top official tells NBC News​

Authorities have “no idea” whether the suspect in Charlie Kirk’s shooting is still in Utah or across state lines, Utah Department of Public Safety Commissioner Beau Mason told NBC News in an interview today.

“We have no idea,” Mason told an NBC News correspondent when asked whether Kirk’s suspected shooter may still be close to the site of the shooting or even within state lines.

“We’re exploring leads for individuals that live close by,” he continued. “We literally have persons of interest, tips coming in on the tip line, that are spanning far and wide.”

“We cannot do our job without the public’s help," Gov. Cox says as search for shooting suspect continues​

Utah’s Governor Spencer Cox is pleading with the public to speak out if they believe they know anything that could lead to the arrest of a shooter in the killing of Charlie Kirk.

“We cannot do our job without the public’s help right now,” Cox said. “The public has answered our call for action.”
So far, the FBI has received more than 7,000 leads and tips related to the shooting at Utah Valley University, Cox said.

The last time the agency received that many digital media tips from the public was following the Boston Marathon bombing in 2013, Cox said during a news conference tonight.

I wonder how bad the political divide will get if the culprit gets away and disappears into the ether.
 

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China warns Mexico to ‘think twice’ before raising tariffs, threatens countermeasures​

BEIJING — China’s Ministry of Commerce has warned Mexico of countermeasures as the country plans to hike tariffs on Asia-made cars to 50%.

We “hope Mexico will be extremely cautious, and think twice before acting,” the ministry said in a statement late Thursday, translated by CNBC.

“China and Mexico are mutually important trade partners,” the ministry said. “We are not willing to see both sides’ economic cooperation affected by this situation.”

Mexico’s Secretary of Economy Marcelo Ebrard told reporters Wednesday that the country planned to raise tariffs on vehicles coming from Asia, particularly China, to 50% from the current 20%. The increased duties still need Congressional approval, and the tariffs would take effect 30 days later, he said.

“China will take necessary measures ... to resolutely safeguard its legitimate rights and interests,” China’s statement read.

Faced with “U.S. abuse of tariffs,” countries should safeguard free trade, China said. “The coercion of others should never sacrifice third-party interests.”

Mexico’s planned China tariffs are part of a broader federal budget proposal that would affect $52 billion worth of the country’s imports, according to a report from The Wall Street Journal.

In the ongoing trade tensions with the U.S., China’s countermeasures have included restrictions on exports of minerals critical to the production of cars and other advanced technology. Chinese companies have come to dominate the supply chain for many of those minerals.

Sitting on the southern border of the U.S., Mexico benefits from the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) for tariff-free trade among the countries. But USMCA, which took effect in 2020, requires a far greater portion of a vehicle to be made in the region than the North American Free Trade Agreement agreement it replaced.
Mexico’s auto industry is the country’s largest employer, Jorge Guajardo, Washington, D.C.-based partner at Dentons Global Advisors, previously told CNBC. He is a former ambassador of Mexico to China.

“At 50 percent, the tariffs are lower than the 60 percent tariffs Russia applies to Chinese cars,” Guajardo told CNBC in an email Friday. “I have yet to see China label the same accusations [of coercion] on Russia or Brazil, I assume that’s a tacit agreement that they understand there is no appetite in the world to absorb China’s excess capacity.” Brazil in July announced tariffs of 35% on electric-car imports.

Excess supply was a reason why global trade existed, a Chinese official told CNBC last year, adding that that if China was producing too many electric cars, other countries dominated in global exports of liquefied natural gas, agricultural products and high-end semiconductors.

From June 2022 to July 2024, more than 20 Chinese auto parts and manufacturers have announced over $7 billion in investments in Mexico, according to the Coalition for a Prosperous America, an advocacy group.

It’s unclear how many of the projects have been completed. Chinese electric car giant BYD
has notably not yet built a long-awaited factory in Mexico.

The central American country has been China’s top destination for car exports, according to China Passenger Car Association figures earlier this year.

“The thing that’s very important about Chinese autos is that where they’re taking market share, a lot of times, it’s not really from the Western brands. It’s really from the other Asian brands. I think that’s what we’ve seen in Mexico,” Eugene Hsiao, Macquarie Capital, head of China equity strategy, said on CNBC’s “The China Connection” earlier this week, ahead of Mexico’s latest tariff announcement.

But even with hints of a 25% increase in duties at the time, Hsiao said that he expected “the value proposition for a lot of these Chinese cars, I think, remains intact, even with some of these tariffs.”
 
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