H-20 bomber (with H-X, JH-XX)

[ZeEa5KPul]

Yes, the balance of probability is trending towards a double-delta, and away from a “super duper extreme ultimate LO” flying wing, or whatever the latest made up terms are.

If anything the balance of probability is the spear tip planform @Blitzo proposed a while back. It's long enough to accommodate a large HCM, the planform is compatible with ELO, and it's capable of supersonic flight. The J-36 is cranked because of the maneuverability demands on a fighter and those are irrelevant to a bomber.

 

[GTI]

If anything the balance of probability is the spear tip planform @Blitzo proposed a while back. It's long enough to accommodate a large HCM, the planform is compatible with ELO, and it's capable of supersonic flight. The J-36 is cranked because of the maneuverability demands on a fighter and those are irrelevant to a bomber.

True. I meant to say “away from traditional / pure flying wing”, really.

Arrow head / diamond, or double delta are the options IMO.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

Will someone be so kind to check the latest satellite picture over Neixiang. I'm away from my PC

Here's one from mid-July this year, which is the most recent I could get from Copernicus without having any distinct cloud cover floating above the airbase.

Doesn't seem to have changed much from 2022(?)

 

[Nx4eu]

These CGIs, could someone point me to them? I might have missed them especially if done before 12/24.

PLA next/6th generation fighter thread

So if the hint is accurate, Wan Quan has already seen and photographed the actual aircraft several days ago. ... Based on what post? I think more likely Wan Quan saw it!

www.sinodefenceforum.com

Kind of basically looks like a combination of what we thought the J-XDS and the J-36 would look like in one plane.

 

[mack8]

PLA next/6th generation fighter thread

So if the hint is accurate, Wan Quan has already seen and photographed the actual aircraft several days ago. ... Based on what post? I think more likely Wan Quan saw it!

www.sinodefenceforum.com

Kind of basically looks like a combination of what we thought the J-XDS and the J-36 would look like in one plane.

Thanks, i definitely missed those at the time. Your drawing of the front fuselage at least was very close to the actual J-36, especially the canopy. I don't think anyone would have been disappointed if J-36 actually looked like your CGI overall. Some uncanny predictions there several days before the SAC and CAC birds were unveiled from people such as @GTI as well.

 

[Nx4eu]

I'm unsure if I should post this in fan CG thread or here but I created a possible configuration using a slightly steeper wing sweep that would fit in the clearance area of the Neixiang Air Base underground hangar. Of course without much further details this is just mindless speculation. I used the B-21 planform as reference*

 

[Blitzo]

I'm unsure if I should post this in fan CG thread or here but I created a possible configuration using a slightly steeper wing sweep that would fit in the clearance area of the Neixiang Air Base underground hangar. Of course without much further details this is just mindless speculation. I used the B-21 planform as reference*
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This is not fan made art for purposes of entertainment so I think this and others of a similar kind is fine, in the sense that it's part of discussion guided by rumours/relevant imagery and information etc.

It's a more refined and comprehensive version to some of the basic planform drawings myself and others did, and as long as people are aware of the context it's fine

 

[GTI]

I'm unsure if I should post this in fan CG thread or here but I created a possible configuration using a slightly steeper wing sweep that would fit in the clearance area of the Neixiang Air Base underground hangar. Of course without much further details this is just mindless speculation. I used the B-21 planform as reference*
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Do we have any idea how long the missiles we’re expecting are?

E.g. do we need IWBs that fit the so-called (don’t know who by) “Beijing Heavy Hammer”?

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

I'm unsure if I should post this in fan CG thread or here but I created a possible configuration using a slightly steeper wing sweep that would fit in the clearance area of the Neixiang Air Base underground hangar. Of course without much further details this is just mindless speculation. I used the B-21 planform as reference*
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Awesome work! Could only wish that I have the same CAD skillsets as yours.

Speaking of which, I did some rough measurement on the GJ-11 flying wing UCAV, which yields about 52-degrees of wing sweep angle in a ~12.2-meter length x ~14.4-meter wingspan airframe.

Next, based on the Neixiang Air Base's satellite imagery, using a somewhat more conservative wingspan of ~57.5 meters and a sweep wing angle of 50 degrees - I've obtained two probable flying wing designs with an overall length of ~41.2 meters.



The left one is B-21-esque, whereas the right one is a partial modification of the former and is GJ-11-esque.

The rectangular boxes in the middle of each airframes represent 2x internal weapons bays (IWBs) (the inner two) and 2x engine bay access hatches (the outer two). All the boxes are ~15 meters long x ~3 meters wide.

Each of the two IWBs can fit 2x 1.2-1.3-meter diameter missiles abreast, or 3x 0.8-0.9-meter diameter missiles abreast.

Needless to say, a small part in me really wants to stretch the IWBs' width to ~4-4.2 meters wide, such that 3x 1.2-1.3-meter diameter missiles abreast or 4x 0.8-0.9-meter diameter missiles abreast can be fitted inside each IWB. However, this may/might be rather stretching (pun intended) on the airframe while within the imposed size limitations.

For comparison: The B-2 has 2x IWBs of ~7.4 meters long and ~2.4 meters wide each, alongside 2x engine bay access hatches of ~2.8 meters wide each.

 

[Antares545]

Awesome work! Could only wish that I have the same CAD skillsets as yours.

Speaking of which, I did some rough measurement on the GJ-11 flying wing UCAV, which yields about 52-degrees of wing sweep angle in a ~12.2-meter length x ~14.4-meter wingspan airframe.

Next, based on the Neixiang Air Base's satellite imagery, using a somewhat more conservative wingspan of ~57.5 meters and a sweep wing angle of 50 degrees - I've obtained two probable flying wing designs with an overall length of ~41.2 meters.

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The left one is B-21-esque, whereas the right one is a partial modification of the former and is GJ-11-esque.

The rectangular boxes in the middle of each airframes represent 2x internal weapons bays (IWBs) (the inner two) and 2x engine bay access hatches (the outer two). All the boxes are ~15 meters long x ~3 meters wide.

Each of the two IWBs can fit 2x 1.2-1.3-meter diameter missiles abreast, or 3x 0.8-0.9-meter diameter missiles abreast.

Needless to say, a small part in me really wants to stretch the IWBs' width to ~4-4.2 meters wide, such that 3x 1.2-1.3-meter diameter missiles abreast or 4x 0.8-0.9-meter diameter missiles abreast can be fitted inside each IWB. However, this may/might be rather stretching (pun intended) on the airframe while within the imposed size limitations.

For comparison: The B-2 has 2x IWBs of ~7.4 meters long and ~2.4 meters wide each, alongside 2x engine bay access hatches of ~2.8 meters wide each.

i feel like if the H-20 had 15m long weapons bays it might only have the center 2 be that length and the outer bays would be shorter like on the J-36.
As much as i would like to see the H-20 be this massive it most likely would not be.