H-20 bomber (with H-X, JH-XX)

[ACuriousPLAFan]

34 m h6 wingspan plus clearance gave 38 m. 63 m minus clearance might give 59 m wingspan. Even if for some reason clearance is given in percentages, wingspan may still be some 56.5 m.

This likely indicates that the H-20 could either be slighly larger than the B-2 (by maintaining the overall shallow sweep wing angle, pure flying-wing configuration), or be significantly larger than the B-2 (some other configuration types, such as cranked kite or pure diamond), given the information we've received on the prospective weaponry loadouts for the H-20.

 

[Deino]

... given the information we've received on the prospective weaponry loadouts for the H-20.

We have credible information on this?

By the way, you maybe all remember the time before Christmas last year before the first image of the J-36 was leaked and a friend sent me a description of the prototype he (or a friend) saw at CAC on which I think it was @Nx4eu made a very early CG.
Yesterday he contacted me again and suggested to be prepared for another Christmas-surprise this year!

另，可以期待一下今年的中国圣诞节了 and 有一些关于sino pakda的流言蜚语

 

[latenlazy]

We have credible information on this?

By the way, you maybe all remember the time before Christmas last year before the first image of the J-36 was leaked and a friend sent me a description of the prototype he (or a friend) saw at CAC on which I think it was @Nx4eu made a very early CG.
Yesterday he contacted me again and suggested to be prepared for another Christmas-surprise this year!

Sounds like H-20 was the J-36 Plus Pro Max after all?

 

[Tomboy]

Sounds like H-20 was the J-36 Plus Pro Max after all?

Where'd you get this idea from?

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

We have credible information on this?

Mainly based on these comments by the Guancha Gang:

Shilao and co mentioned that all that development in HCM has made PLAAF realize the need for a new bomber. There's a new class of weapon that's too big for H-6 to carry a pair of ala YJ-21, yet too small and not strategic weapon enough to make it a H-6N centerline special. Thus PLAAF now has a clear use case to argue for a new larger bomber.

Yeah, we've been discussing this in the H-20 thread. But I wonder if they mean the H-20 is designed with this in mind or there is a need for a B-52 class bomber or something even larger

Discussion continued here to avoid derailing original thread.

Speaking of which, I made some rough measurements based on this H-6N carrying a supersized HGV missile at its centerline, indicating said HGV missile being about 13 meters long (discrepancies included).

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Hence, for the unknown target missiles that are longer/larger than the YJ-20/21 (~8.5 meters long) and smaller/shorter than the above missile (~13 meters long) - These missiles should be somewhere between 9 and 12 meters long. Maybe 10 - 11 meters?

Hence, given that the H-20 is intended to not just carry such target missiles, but being able to carry a pair of said missiles or more - This would call for one pretty long (~10-12 meters?) and wide IWB, or two similarly long but narrower IWBs arranged side-by-side on the H-20.

I won't say 100% credible, but I'd rank the information "near-high level of credibility" as of now.

 

[GTI]

Where'd you get this idea from?

Yes, the balance of probability is trending towards a double-delta, and away from a “super duper extreme ultimate LO” flying wing, or whatever the latest made up terms are.

 

[sunnymaxi]

Yes, the balance of probability is trending towards a double-delta, and away from a “super duper extreme ultimate LO” flying wing, or whatever the latest made up terms are.

nobody knows the actual design. its all top secret.

 

[GTI]

We have credible information on this?

By the way, you maybe all remember the time before Christmas last year before the first image of the J-36 was leaked and a friend sent me a description of the prototype he (or a friend) saw at CAC on which I think it was @Nx4eu made a very early CG.
Yesterday he contacted me again and suggested to be prepared for another Christmas-surprise this year!

Any vague description of the layout / planform provided?

I remember @Nx4eu then made a couple of CGIs based on the description, and your friend then gave us some cryptic confirmation on a couple of aspects of it.

Also, I kind of feel like some of those descriptions, or at least resultant CGIs, had some elements of the J-XDS in it. In fact, we were comparing those real J-XDS pics, those real ones that we thought were fake for almost 2 weeks, with the CGIs.

 

[Deino]

No, only the hint itself to stay tuned!

 

[mack8]

Any vague description of the layout / planform provided?

I remember @Nx4eu then made a couple of CGIs based on the description, and your friend then gave us some cryptic confirmation on a couple of aspects of it.

Also, I kind of feel like some of those descriptions, or at least resultant CGIs, had some elements of the J-XDS in it. In fact, we were comparing those real J-XDS pics, those real ones that we thought were fake for almost 2 weeks, with the CGIs.

These CGIs, could someone point me to them? I might have missed them especially if done before 12/24.