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Aqrab

Just Hatched
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If regime change of Venezuela has been decided. I think, that:


1. US intelligence agencies have assets/moles that Maduro is NOT aware off.

2. Opposition has be purchased behind the scene already.

3. Air/missile strikes will target Maduro, killing him and important associates.

4. Opposition will be moved to take over with possible "threatening communication" from US to the defence forces of Venezuela who will be jointly told (Maduro's Opposition + US ) that forget Maduro, move on to a new era of US led so called "freedom, democracy and prosperity".


Its much more than "heavy crude oil". Its about gain yet another military led foothold on one of worlds most resources rich continents and then one by one doing regime changes and expansion wherever possible. Off course due to increasing decoupling US can only hope to survive if at all, if it manages to capture the increasingly rich market of south Americas for its products as they develop over time. It also means losing those markets for others (or joining US to gain access to them ). Plans may be much bigger like this. Time will tell.


5. Its definitely setting up "environmentally dirty" critical rare earth mineral and other industries whether this mineral exists on any single country such as Venezuela or NOT. One can always ship them and poison their environment and use their cheap labour and off course import quite capable technical workforce from various other south American nations.


May be even set up "risky" bio-hazard or future "biological weapons" labs there (like they were in Ukraine etc.) to perfect new gene edited "behavior, physiology enhancing or harming" agents.


6. By using a country so far away from China and most of Asia/Africa, its also about denting Chinese and more generally global south's reputation. No matter how things are interpreted on this forum, if this regime change goes through, It will hurt Chines, Russian and collectively global south's future security guarantees and credibility, even to each other whether they have given previously any to Venezuela or not. Its will still show to the rest of world, US can do as its pleases with no consequences not even the miner ones. Interpretations/re-framing here, will not change what most of world will "unconsciously" think. Despite distrust among themselves, Global south must reach a point where they can prevent regime changes or other influences like this.

South Americas is one of most free regions in the world that have "balls" to oppose any "imperial" or hegemonic design of colonial powers as oppose to say Japan/South Korea etc. . If world does not resist attempts like this and abandons them, it will set a terrible example.
 
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plawolf

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I think you're underestimating the current mood of people of the world, I think that's the same mistake the US is making as well. So the US invades Venezuela, overthrows Maduro and turns the country into a vassal. People will accept that and not give the US a hard time? Okay, say they are pacified and don't revolt or anything, they'll accept lower standard of living? Where do you think they'll want to migrate to? You think the US will drop bombs? I don't think so. The US has a population that won't tolerate it and it will tear itself apart of they resort to brutal tactics. The US needs to accept reality and adjust to the new order.

What is happening right now in Gaza is many times worse that what the US might do in Venezuela, what concrete steps has the world taken in response to the ongoing crimes against humanity and unspeakable atrocities happening there as well speak?

Has the US population risen up to overthrow their government to end it? If the western publics can turn a blind eye to literal genocide on an industrial scale, you think they will draw the line at taking some poor coloured people’s oil? What do you think has been happening in Syria for the last decade?

It’s also funny you think illegal immigration is some magical weapon the west has no answer to, and cannot see the true purpose and design in all the state permitted if not outright sponsored mass illegal immigration in recent years.

What better way to turn a population fascist and racists and undo decades of tolerance and enlightenment than to flood their communities with the most undesirable illegal immigrants and put every inevitable crime under the microscope and have your media amplify them and commentators tell everyone how they will be next if something fundamental doesn’t change soon. Soon not only would the people not protest governments ripping up treaties and conventions that prevent them from breaking UN humanitarian rules, the people would protest and riot to demand it. Case in point what is happening in the UK right now.

You will be shocked at how easily and quickly mass deportations and camps can happen if white people feel angry and threatened enough.
 

_killuminati_

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Africablack

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What is happening right now in Gaza is many times worse that what the US might do in Venezuela, what concrete steps has the world taken in response to the ongoing crimes against humanity and unspeakable atrocities happening there as well speak?

Has the US population risen up to overthrow their government to end it? If the western publics can turn a blind eye to literal genocide on an industrial scale, you think they will draw the line at taking some poor coloured people’s oil? What do you think has been happening in Syria for the last decade?

It’s also funny you think illegal immigration is some magical weapon the west has no answer to, and cannot see the true purpose and design in all the state permitted if not outright sponsored mass illegal immigration in recent years.

What better way to turn a population fascist and racists and undo decades of tolerance and enlightenment than to flood their communities with the most undesirable illegal immigrants and put every inevitable crime under the microscope and have your media amplify them and commentators tell everyone how they will be next if something fundamental doesn’t change soon. Soon not only would the people not protest governments ripping up treaties and conventions that prevent them from breaking UN humanitarian rules, the people would protest and riot to demand it. Case in point what is happening in the UK right now.

You will be shocked at how easily and quickly mass deportations and camps can happen if white people feel angry and threatened enough.
Let's be honest, people are outraged with what's going on in Gaza but the ME has been a clusterfuck for so long the fukkery going on there is almost expected. The US going full empire on Latin America will be a different dynamic especially in this era, the consequences of destabilizing the region will reverberate to the US border.

The thing with a lot of you folks is that you don't see the cost in anything, you think just because some countries are rich and have huge economic and technological power that they can do anything they want to. Empire building is an expensive undertaking and it comes with costs. For an empire to be built and maintained the benefits should outweigh the costs otherwise everything will fall apart, this has been the case throughout history. Whatever gains the US thinks it will gain from invading a Latin American country it better be ready to shoulder the cost of doing so. Nobody will care if the society turns racists or fascists, if you destabilize a country and make living standards unbearable you better be ready to spend more and more guarding your borders. It's as simple as that.

The US using hard power to force it's region to align with its interest will make the end of the US as an empire.
 

bebops

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Israel destroy gaza so they can annex it. Then it will be called Greater Israel. To do that they have to destroy all old Islamic buildings and rebuild it with western architecture.

The rebuilding will take 15-20 years to rebuild since the West is known to be slow builders, unlike China.

This is how everything will play out in the next decade.
 

tamsen_ikard

Senior Member
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Israel destroy gaza so they can annex it. Then it will be called Greater Israel. To do that they have to destroy all old Islamic buildings and rebuild it with western architecture.

The rebuilding will take 15-20 years to rebuild since the West is known to be slow builders, unlike China.

This is how everything will play out in the next decade.
Israel can destroy Gaza but 2 million Gazans still exist and no other country is going to take them. So, what will Israel do with these people? Nothing. It obviously can't ship them to west bank, that will be a bigger disaster for Israel.

The only solution is that Gazans will stay in Gaza, despite whatever Israel wants.
 

_killuminati_

Senior Member
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Israel can destroy Gaza but 2 million Gazans still exist and no other country is going to take them. So, what will Israel do with these people? Nothing. It obviously can't ship them to west bank, that will be a bigger disaster for Israel.

The only solution is that Gazans will stay in Gaza, despite whatever Israel wants.
They'll just kill them. 20-25% of the population has already been killed. And now, Western media has shifted focus to increasing sympathy for Gazans = more welcoming to refugees.

Let's be honest, people are outraged with what's going on in Gaza but the ME has been a clusterfuck for so long the fukkery going on there is almost expected. The US going full empire on Latin America will be a different dynamic especially in this era, the consequences of destabilizing the region will reverberate to the US border.

The thing with a lot of you folks is that you don't see the cost in anything, you think just because some countries are rich and have huge economic and technological power that they can do anything they want to. Empire building is an expensive undertaking and it comes with costs. For an empire to be built and maintained the benefits should outweigh the costs otherwise everything will fall apart, this has been the case throughout history. Whatever gains the US thinks it will gain from invading a Latin American country it better be ready to shoulder the cost of doing so. Nobody will care if the society turns racists or fascists, if you destabilize a country and make living standards unbearable you better be ready to spend more and more guarding your borders. It's as simple as that.

The US using hard power to force it's region to align with its interest will make the end of the US as an empire.
US has invaded Latin American countries numerous times in the past. This machine runs on and profits from war, not from peace. They are a raiding nation, the northern barbarians whom the civilized world built walls & fortifications against for the past 3000 years from Rome to China.
 
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