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manqiangrexue

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Then why don't we do it this time when we don't have to face US at the same time?
Because this time, it would help the US.
The buckle US wish to gained is not a threat to china but hurt Indian economy. It's good why shold china suppress?
Because it serves China to always make the US fail and spend more time and resources on face-saving efforts. If they succeed, it will be good for the US economy. So we prevent its success.
To be fair, trump policies is good for china in long term. If trump secured victory it's better for china than democrats but if trumps failed
Yes but Trump is only good because he's stupid and his plans have high backfire rate, so to capitalize, we need to make them backfire. Trump is not good because he's kind or pro-China; Trump is not good for China if his plans work. They need to fail.
India will be back to the same after Dem won so use the chance to weaken India futher is better.
Yes, but using the time between now and 2028, we should gain as many advantages on the US and make them fail as often as possible. After 2028, we can fight India again; but before 2028, this clown can be on our side harming our main rival the USA.
Then to prevent Russia joining west again, you must pressure Russia to gave more concession to china in order to make them more dependent on china by dominate their markets.
There is no such thing as a long term concession that binds Russia to China. They can reneg and ban anytime. To prevent Russia from joining the West, you must keep our interests aligned and aligned against Western interests. Forced concessions do nothing except make Russia remember that China took a pound of flesh from them when we were supposedly their partner fighting together the hardest common fight of our nations' histories.

And once again, they don't have to keep fighting. What if they take a deal to keep their gains and stop? They don't want to make any concessions to you. Now the war is over. What will you do then?
The war make both Russia and west weak.
That's why we bolster Russia to keep fighting. We ask no concessions but fuel them and make them feel that everything offered is not enough because they can take more by force and with Chinese support. And they keep fighting and the problems for the West continue. The best and only way to ensure that Russia stays aligned with China is to continue this war so they can never reconcile with Europe or the US. No concessions will do but this will because it will keep Russian and Chinese interests aligned against Western interests.
You can do both by support Russia against 30+ countries while still pressured them to give concession. It's not push them together.
So let's go back to here: "they don't have to keep fighting. What if they take a deal to keep their gains and stop? They don't want to make any concessions to you. Now the war is over. What will you do then?" In this situation Russia can truly start to drift West.
 
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gelgoog

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As if that would be necessary. Does this guy know what satellite ISR is?

I also doubt the Russians ever went inside Iran to operate the batteries either. That is not how Iran does things.

Iranians and Russians have issues. The Soviets invaded them as recently as WW2 so it is not a high trust relation. But these politicos need to get real.
 

Overbom

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I swear, these high level Iranian politicians are all retarded.



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Russian Prime Minister Putin: Israel Is, in Fact, a Special State to Us
20.07.2011
In concluding his remark, Putin said: "Israel is, in fact, a special state to us. It is practically a Russian-speaking country. Israel is one of the few foreign countries that can be called Russian-speaking. It's obvious that more than half of the population speaks Russian."
 

FriedButter

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As if that would be necessary. Does this guy know what satellite ISR is?

I also doubt the Russians ever went inside Iran to operate the batteries either. That is not how Iran does things.

Iranians and Russians have issues. The Soviets invaded them as recently as WW2 so it is not a high trust relation. But these politicos need to get real.

It is a good reminder to the people who were angry and attacking China and Russia for doing absolutely nothing. The Iranians are total isolationists when it comes to the military aspect of things. They do not want any help.
 

supersnoop

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The core fantasy underlying the Indian elite psyche is the separation of Tibet from China, and in the maximalist scenario, fully integrated under the sovereignty of India proper. The logic goes that Buddhism originated from India, thus India is the spiritual protector of Tibet, which could justify such territorial aggression. This thinking dovetails with the colonialist mindset of Hindutva and represents an existential threat to China, full stop. Not unlike Iran calling for the destruction of Israel. This is unacceptable and cannot stand. I am sure the Chinese leadership understands this.
Black Myth Wukong is about obtaining Buddhist enlightenment. Therefore Black Myth Wukong is a bestselling AAA Game with Indian origins... Jai Hind!

Total failure in the 2nd attempt. Not a single one ousted in both attempts.


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2027 reunification is coming. Current DPP admin is like Biden's. Remember when Biden's election was a signal that the US would move on from the "Trump chaos" and framed as "a triumph of democracy". Only for Biden's team to do such a bang up job that people went back to "Trump chaos" in a landslide. DPP went even further, gerrymandering two mass recalls and arresting top political opposition leaders. They didn't even win a single vote.
This is the latest colour revolution failure of the US, the recall election was framed as the "Bluebird movement", a "democratic" movement which tried to remove the democratically elected representatives because of some even more super-democratic Pro Max Ultra rationale.

Wow, HAL and Bharat Electronics have higher market cap valuation than Leonardo, Saab, Dassault, Kongsberg, AVIC, CSSC, and Elbit. HAL alone have more than USD10B bigger valuation over AVIC Shenyang, and they are not even producing any 5th gen jets.

Jai Hind!
5th Gen jets, there are only 3 countries that have them, it's not a fair characterization. The real question is what are the successful exports of HAL and Bharat Electronics?

I don't know why you guys are being so asinine about an African who wants to see Africa industrialise. It's a matter of national self respect. The biggest leverage they have is their natural resources so it's completely expected they offer that in return for factories.

Developing countries absolutely should have tariff barriers to promote industrialization. There's a big reason why many Africans are fans of the CCP, they want to learn from them. I find African commentators are a lot less delusional than Indians, they aren't fantasizing about supapowa 20xx.

That said, I predict that economies like Australia (exports raw materials/low manufacturing) are going to do a lot better than economies like Europe (few raw materials/strong manufacturing) because being primarily a raw materials exporter means you aren't in a hunger games manufacturing death match with Guangdong.
African countries are definitely trying to learn from China, why else are countries like Kenya establishing "Special Economic Zones"
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plawolf

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African countries are definitely trying to learn from China, why else are countries like Kenya establishing "Special Economic Zones"
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I think the salient point is that there is a right and wrong way to go about this.

The right way is to embrace China, work with China and become part of China’s BRI to leverage China’s know-how, technology, capital and expertise to build a better future for all together.

The wrong way to do it is the Jai Hind way where they think China’s achievement is nothing special and they can easily be the next China because it’s their turn and time, and that somehow China owes it to them to actively make way for them or else they can somehow bully and brow beat China into submission, or else threaten to flood China with refugees.

Choose the former and you will enjoy unprecedented prosperity and advancement. Choose the latter and you will find out China can fuck you over as hard and thoroughly as any Anglo nation.

No one gets to be a superpower by being a pussy afraid to crack heads when necessary.
 
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