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jiajia99

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Australia and New Zealand might be the two Anglo nations most insulated from the upcoming crisis, at the terrible cost of falling into the Chinese sphere. But I suppose with China's manufacturing, the conversion rate between NZ wool and Australia ore to manufactured goods will be high enough to ensure a comfortable life for both nations citizens.

Developing countries should co-plan their industrialization with China, so that China does not swallow their industries whole. China could even partition out several sectors that those nations would monopolize. Ultimately, if the goal for both China and the developing country is balanced trade, such a goal can only be accomplished via coordination.

Tbh, as the industry becomes more and more capital-intensive, and profit margins drop as a result, the ratio of raw materials to finished goods tilts in the factor of the raw material exporter, unless the owner of such industry chooses to monopolize those goods. The western countries often monopolize technology in order to keep the price artifically high, but in theory, a manufacturing economy should see its profits frittered away by heavy capital investment.
Falling into Chinas orbit is a good thing as far as I am concerned. Besides who the hell whats to become the USA or Europe right now

Wolf warrior diplomacy vs kindergartener diplomacy
Seriously listening to Gordon Chang, another out of touch idiot must’ve damaged what is left of his brain
 
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Nobody is going to be arrogant about anything, it's not sustainable to simply be a market for Chinese goods indefinitely and sooner or later they'll start making demands for industrial investments.
If these African countries are already making profits from resources that China assisted in developing, why does China also need to provide investments for industrialization? Couldn't these countries reinvest the profits earned from resource exports into industrialization? If they were to do so, China would be more than happy to provide the machines, tooling, technology, training, and consulting services at a fair price.
 

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Quan8410

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South Korea is in a pitiful situation. Regardless of whether it cooperates with China, it will be surpassed by China in the future and become a dumping ground for products.
If South Korean become a province of China, they can at least enjoy some benefits later.
 

doggydogdo

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South Korea is in a pitiful situation. Regardless of whether it cooperates with China, it will be surpassed by China in the future and become a dumping ground for products.
The thing is if South Korea industries become uncompetitive and lose export markets, it would mean they would have no money to import things anymore. It wouldn't become a dumping group it would be pushed out of global trade entirely kinda like North Korea lol
 

Africablack

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If these African countries are already making profits from resources that China assisted in developing, why does China also need to provide investments for industrialization? Couldn't these countries reinvest the profits earned from resource exports into industrialization? If they were to do so, China would be more than happy to provide the machines, tooling, technology, training, and consulting services at a fair price.
China doesn't need to do anything, the way these other countries don't need to provide inputs either. I do agree, resources need to be re-invested properly and I'm sure China will help with that.
 

wuguanhui

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If these African countries are already making profits from resources that China assisted in developing, why does China also need to provide investments for industrialization? Couldn't these countries reinvest the profits earned from resource exports into industrialization? If they were to do so, China would be more than happy to provide the machines, tooling, technology, training, and consulting services at a fair price.

The usual reason: market access.
BYD builds factories all over the world. If a sufficiently large market imposes tariff barriers for imported cars, why wouldn't car manufacturers invest?

Another reason is access to raw materials, China transferred a lot of nickel mining and processing technology to Indonesia for access to their nickel mines. Why wouldn't China make the same agreement to Africa for a similar consideration.

China isn't going to climb up the ladder of industrialization and kick away the ladder. It has been perfectly willing to help other countries up too, for a price.

Actually I think the biggest argument against it, is Niger's greed and stupidity in stealing Chinese investments. China invested a lot of money into that country when no-one else would. What Niger did is going to make Chinese companies very wary of investing in Africa. If China investments in Africa dry up, blame those retards.
 

Africablack

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Stop your gaslighting nonsense. You're a big cheerleader for this global south victimhood entitlement mentality on this forum. Your whataboutism is not gonna fool anyone.
Boy please, I don't even think you even know what gaslighting means. You're in your feelings over me mentioning that the global system won't be sustainable in the long run. Victimhood mentality indeed.
 
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