China's SCS Strategy Thread

zhangjim

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A bit late to the party, but here's my two cents amidst the all the doomerism here. Now yes, it was a fuckup and those responsible deserve the hatchet. As for member reactions and all those feeling "depressed," I seem to recall that whenever Ukraine does one its Moskva style strike on Russia people here generally respond as such, "Yes it was impressive, yes Russian defences have a lot of holes, but it doesn't change the reality on the ground that Ukraine is irreversibly losing territory against Russia and there's nothing they or NATO can do about it." Apply the same logic here not just to make yourself feel better, but that is the gist of what I see from the situation. That whatever happened, nothing changes the reality of the ground with respect to China's control of Scarborough Shoal and continued naval dominance in the region. A single embarassing incident isn't going to make Bongbong Marcos anymore popular and his position against Sara Duterte any less precarious. A single embarassing incident too isn't going to magically make the US want to cross more of China's redlines. If it did, Trump wouldn't have extended the China tariff truce today.

So take a deep breath, do what you need to get the incident out your head, because guess what? The world would've long forgotten about yesterday by Friday and moved on to the next big story.
This is a classic event where “David defeated Goliath”.
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——I completely agree with this statement. As shown in the picture, the problem is still the lack of determination from the leadership. They only want interest, but they don't want to take any risks, afraid of the diplomatic and political risks brought by the escalation of the situation. So they threw the heavy responsibility onto the frontline personnel.

My attitude has never changed in recent years. 'Enduring' is just an excuse to cover up the timidity and incompetence of the leadership.
 

siegecrossbow

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Unfortunately, I don't believe that there will be confirmation of casualties during this period of time.
It seems that the official narrative is to keep quiet and continue along, hopefully the PLA learns a lesson and not use expensive, valuable assets in such a manner in the future.

Yeah they kept things quiet about Galwan too until things calmed down.
 

TheFoozyOne

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The Coast Guard Patrol released a series of candles and mourning emojis last night. I also hope that the soldiers are okay, but it seems unlikely, considering the severe damage to the Coast Guard ship.
Let’s hope so… But in a collision like this, even if the ships cannot maneuver in time, I have a hard time believing how the personnels at the front fail to see an incoming collision and not run away from the danger…
 

cft4201

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This is a classic event where “David defeated Goliath”.
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——I completely agree with this statement. As shown in the picture, the problem is still the lack of determination from the leadership. They only want interest, but they don't want to take any risks, afraid of the diplomatic and political risks brought by the escalation of the situation. So they threw the heavy responsibility onto the frontline personnel.

My attitude has never changed in recent years. 'Enduring' is just an excuse to cover up the timidity and incompetence of the leadership.
At the same time, there needs to be a balance regarding taking risks. The nation is trying to present itself as an alternative to US global rule, so we cannot be as gung-ho as the US or we'll be seen as the same side of the coin. The US involved itself in far too many wars and conflicts that diminished its global image and led to too much waste.

I expect future encounters to be dealt with more aggressively. The only thing I don't like I with the outcome is there has been zero official response in a situation where there is the possibility lives could've been lost.
 

GZDRefugee

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This is a classic event where “David defeated Goliath”.
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——I completely agree with this statement. As shown in the picture, the problem is still the lack of determination from the leadership. They only want interest, but they don't want to take any risks, afraid of the diplomatic and political risks brought by the escalation of the situation. So they threw the heavy responsibility onto the frontline personnel.

My attitude has never changed in recent years. 'Enduring' is just an excuse to cover up the timidity and incompetence of the leadership.
Doesn't modern PLA doctrine emphasize bold actions to seize initiative? Unfortunately, bold actions naturally come with greater risk. Timidity would run counter to a core principle of systems confrontation warfare, wouldn't it? What are the odds of political risk aversion obstructing effective implementation of doctrine?
 

siegecrossbow

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People who bitch and moan about this keep forgetting about past events—

1) 2008 Tibetan unrest — now quelled.

2) 2011 Xinjiang unrest and terrorism — now quelled. Xinjiang one of the safest places in.

3) 2019 Hongkong unrest — now quelled. Even former cucks shop in Shenzhen now.

4) 2022 Pelosi Visit — allowed three branches of PLA to salami slice like there is no tomorrow. Diminished ROC readiness and equipment lifespan while improving coordination within Chinese Air Force and Navy.

I feel that in the social media age people want instant gratification and don’t have patience for anything.
 

zhangjim

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At the same time, there needs to be a balance regarding taking risks. The nation is trying to present itself as an alternative to US global rule, so we cannot be as gung-ho as the US or we'll be seen as the same side of the coin. The US involved itself in far too many wars and conflicts that diminished its global image and led to too much waste.

I expect future encounters to be dealt with more aggressively. The only thing I don't like I with the outcome is there has been zero official response in a situation where there is the possibility lives could've been lost.
What I hate even more is that every time they have to wait until things get to a serious point before thinking about correcting them. Image has no value in this world, and Israel never has to worry about their image.
 

siegecrossbow

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What I hate even more is that every time they have to wait until things get to a serious point before thinking about correcting them. Image has no value in this world, and Israel never has to worry about their image.

China doesn’t own the global propaganda apparatus. And even MSM can’t save their reputation from being salvaged.
 
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