China's SCS Strategy Thread

[bsdnf]

According to the response from the Philippine CCG, it seems that they are attempting to cool down the SCS situation.

There's widespread anger in China, and public opinion is leaning toward revanchism and escalating action. This isn't something the Filipinos side can change.

Some issues, such as casualties, would be minor incidents if kept secret, but would become a major event if made public. 有些事不上称没有四两重，可要上了称，一千斤都打不住。

 

[LKK815]

There's widespread anger in China, and public opinion is leaning toward revanchism and escalating action. This isn't something the Filipinos side can change.

Some issues, such as casualties, would be minor incidents if kept secret, but would become a major event if made public. 有些事不上称没有四两重，可要上了称，一千斤都打不住。

The videos of the incident are spreading like wildfire thought the wechat and qq groups I'm in, I don't think you can keep this under wraps soon

 

[cft4201]

There's widespread anger in China, and public opinion is leaning toward revanchism and escalating action. This isn't something the Filipinos side can change.

Some issues, such as casualties, would be minor incidents if kept secret, but would become a major event if made public. 有些事不上称没有四两重，可要上了称，一千斤都打不住。

But then again, the government has the final say regarding matters.

The same thing has happened when Pelosi landed in Taiwan. Public anger doesn't influence the decision making of the top brass.
Plus the videos are everywhere now. Spreading within China and also outside of China.

 

[bsdnf]

But then again, the government has the final say regarding matters.

The same thing has happened when Pelosi landed in Taiwan. Public anger doesn't influence the decision making of the top brass.
Plus the videos are everywhere now. Spreading within China and also outside of China.

I don't want to argue about whether “the sun rises because the rooster crows.” But is public pressure really ineffective at all?

I have to remind you that the Pelosi incident was the starting point of the normalized strait military exercises.

We can't assume it's a natural occurrence just because it's become normalized.

 

[doggydogdo]

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On Monday, the Philippines sent multiple coast guard and government vessels, under the pretext of delivering supplies to fishing boats, to forcibly intrude into waters near China's Huangyan Dao, despite repeated dissuasion and warnings from the Chinese side,China Coast Guard spokesperson Gan Yu said in a statement on Monday.

The China Coast Guard, in accordance with the law, took all necessary measures, including tracking, monitoring, blocking, and controlling, to drive the Philippine vessels away. On-site operations were conducted in a professional, standard, and lawful manner, Gong said.

Huangyan Island is an inherent part of China's territory. The China Coast Guard will continue to carry out rights-protection law enforcement activities in the waters of Huangyan Dao in accordance with the law, and will resolutely safeguard China's national territorial sovereignty and maritime rights and interests, the spokesperson said.

China isn't saying anything about the accident, they might be trying to diffuse the situation. Philippines definitely should avoid doing anything in South China sea for long time, if they do China might just sink the Sierra madre and Philippines can't do much about it

 

[Nevermore]

It was indeed a painful failure, and the Chinese Coast Guard must learn from this experience and remain calm and professional in future expulsion operations. It is necessary to conduct special research on expulsion tactics and modify coast guard vessels to adapt to expulsion operations against Philippine vessels.

 

[cft4201]

It was indeed a painful failure, and the Chinese Coast Guard must learn from this experience and remain calm and professional in future expulsion operations. It is necessary to conduct special research on expulsion tactics and modify coast guard vessels to adapt to expulsion operations against Philippine vessels.

Arguably I think the commander of the 164 is the individual that is mostly to blame. 164 should've never participated in the ramming, and it is likely that they lost their cool and let emotions dictate their actions. I think that also explains why 164 made such an sharp turn, nearly completely perpendicular.

 

[Jiang ZeminFanboy]

I don't want to argue about whether “the sun rises because the rooster crows.” But is public pressure really ineffective at all?

I have to remind you that the Pelosi incident was the starting point of the normalized strait military exercises.

We can't assume it's a natural occurrence just because it's become normalized.

And to remember what Xi said at the end of covid regarding opening up about following the people's will.

 

[bsdnf]

From another perspective, the fact that the 052 participated in the interception instead of the perimeter alert is itself a sign of escalation. It is just that the wrong equipment was used this time (the 052's poor maneuverability was exploited).

But there are more options for escalating.

 

[cft4201]

And to remember what Xi said at the end of covid regarding opening up about following the people's will.

This is regarding military matters and also global image however, so it very well can be different. The government will have to decide whether escalation will be worth it and especially as there are trade talks with the US that are ongoing.

Remember, the PLA says that they "won't fire the first shot" and yes, as rage-inducing as this fact is, Philippine technically did not fire anything first.