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Backdoor in NVIDIA H20 AI GPU's for China -- Can USA Tech Be Trusted​



I love this guy. He calls out his own government's hypocrisy and lays it all out for what it is.
To be fair, the likelyhood of a backdoor is fairly low since individual compute clusters of AI training GPUs are usually always firewalled from the open internet making remote access or even "calling home" very hard.

The actual malicious threat that people overlook (because they're distracted by worrying about backdoors ) is poison pill logic in the silicon. Since the US knows that nearly everyone who buys the H20 GPUS are in China, there could be malicious logic in the silicon that will return bad data or inefficient solutions to data matching certain criteria. For example if they want to hobble China's biotech sector and the parameters feed into Nvidia GPUs resemble DNA sequences, then it could maliciously create a model where it outputs nonsensical results for a new drug compound query.

We've seen countless instances of US sabotaging an adversary's infrastructure in way more clever ways than what's obvious to regular people - Stuxnet-Iran enrichment centrifuge sabotage, Siberian Pipeline explosion of 1982, just to name a couple.

By constantly hyping up a backdoor/remote-access threat diverts attention from more plausible and more malicious threats that actual tech developers/engineers worry about.
 
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To be fair, the likelyhood of a backdoor is fairly low since individual compute clusters of AI training GPUs are usually always firewalled from the open internet making remote access or even "calling home" very hard.

The actual malicious threat that people overlook (because they're distracted by worrying about backdoors ) is poison pill logic in the silicon. Since the US knows that nearly everyone who buys the H20 GPUS are in China, there could be malicious logic in the silicon that will return bad data or inefficient solutions to data matching certain criteria. For example if they want to hobble China's biotech sector and the parameters feed into Nvidia GPUs resemble DNA sequences, then it could maliciously create a model where it outputs nonsensical results for a new drug compound query.

We've seen countless instances of US sabotaging an adversary's infrastructure in way more clever ways than what's obvious to regular people - Stuxnet-Iran enrichment centrifuge sabotage, Siberian Pipeline explosion of 1982, just to name a couple.

By constantly hyping up a backdoor/remote-access threat diverts attention from more plausible and more malicious threats that actual tech developers/engineers worry about.
Makes sense to me that any hanjian business decision to use H20 over CloudMatrix384 should result in business failure anyways. I welcome US sabotage of H20 with the maximum aggression they can muster. In fact, I wish their top officials would openly gloat that they have successfully tricked China into buying sabotaged garbage for tens of billions. Then we can really start seeing some heads roll.
 

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Gotta fudge them numbers.
So Trump just confirmed the bad job numbers. I doubt US' economy will grow 1.9% this year, as predicted by IMF.

Unlike America's sycophant the EU, China has no intention to replace affordable energies from Russia with expensive ones from the US.

LMAO tweet of the day: they don't know the Ukraine regime is forced to recruit grandpas and psychiatric patients now?
 

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Great idea. More completely worthless rupees for Russia to stockpile. Other than English tech support (very imminently about to be decimated by AI), since Indians can't speak Russian (and I would barely categorize their English as decipherable over the phone), what else can Russians use their rupees on? The average Russian can only consume so much weird malty/bready tasting Assam or Darjeeling tea and curry powder. Got anything else?
This always comes up. Russia is developing Active tourism around Mosques for that it needs millions of people in physical labor
Gulf Monarchies has experience in managing people from many different nationalities in millions over many decades. Just moving this much labor Russia need Gulf Airlines and exchange systems. This Russian deputy PM asked Saudi Prince in June to invest in Russia Far East and now he is in Saudi for follow up visit and already planning for next meeting in November. this just one example.
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updated 12 September 2024, 09:23

Putin announced the construction of a thousand mosques, temples and synagogues​

September 12. /TASS/. The construction of thousands of mosques, churches and synagogues is "on the march" in the Russian Federation; this has never happened in either Tsarist or Soviet Russia. Russian President Vladimir Putin pointed this out while speaking at the St. Petersburg International Forum of United Cultures.
 
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