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[Expert1324]

Just discovered this new cope "AEWC" aircraft out there that is being used by the RN rn. IMO the Crowsnest helicopter is seriously such a cope of a concept built specifically around the inferior cope-slope carriers so that the RN operators can still tell others, "Hey we have an AEWC too! We are not like the other cope-slop countries!"

But the reality is that the radar would not be powerful enough, the crew conditions would much worse, and it would be much easier to be shot down by missiles. This is such a tin pot idea lmao. Who even come up with this if it wasn't for ego's sake.

 

[PLAwatcher12]

wow that is a very bad news, another conventional carrier using emals is just not sufficient or capable enough imo

Not in the long term but building another conventional carrier isn’t a bad idea considering how long a nuclear carrier would take to build. And conventional carriers are alot better than the Ski Jump ones that China currently operate that can’t launch J-35.

 

[Expert1324]

That's only your opinion.

Conventionally-powered aircraft carriers certainly very much ARE sufficient and capable enough to conduct (high-intensity) CATO operations using EMCATs.

Not for long range operations, which I think is absolutely needed especially in the long term.

A smart leadership would not stuck their thinking within just the first 2 island chains or scs, that is incredibly short-sighted. No matter how pacificist you are or how anti-global police force you are, protecting global shipping lanes and projecting a military presence across your own business interest or assets is a basic security necessity nowadays. If not, those in charge are not much better than the late-stage Ming Emperors who are bound to fail with the foolish haijin policy.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

Not for long range operations, which I think is absolutely needed especially in the long term.

Oh yes, EMCAT-equipped conventionally-powered carriers absolutely can conduct long-range operations, provided the PLAN having a robust and reliable logistical network for replenishment to support their operations far from home (the capability of which China is steadily building up right now).

The US Navy have already done that throughout the Cold War when conventionally-powered carriers (Midways, Forrestals and Kitty Hawks) constituted more than half of their entire CV fleet. I see no reason why China couldn't do the same in the Pacific going forward, should Beijing wishes to.

A smart leadership would not stuck their thinking within just the first 2 island chains or scs, that is incredibly short-sighted. No matter how pacificist you are or how anti-global police force you are, protecting global shipping lanes and projecting a military presence across your own business interest or assets is a basic security necessity nowadays. If not, those in charge are not much better than the late-stage Ming Emperors who are bound to fail with the foolish haijin policy.

This is a shallow, ill-informed take.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

Not in the long term but building another conventional carrier isn’t a bad idea considering how long a nuclear carrier would take to build. And conventional carriers are alot better than the Ski Jump ones that China currently operate that can’t launch J-35.

The STOBAR twins can indeed launch J-35s, otherwise the PLAN wouldn't bother putting J-35 mockups on Liaoning immediately after her MLU for deck handling trainings. In fact, the Guancha Trios already mentioned that (J-35 STOBAR trials) to be the case since late-2024 at the earliest.

 

[supersnoop]

Just discovered this new cope "AEWC" aircraft out there that is being used by the RN rn. IMO the Crowsnest helicopter is seriously such a cope of a concept built specifically around the inferior cope-slope carriers so that the RN operators can still tell others, "Hey we have an AEWC too! We are not like the other cope-slop countries!"

But the reality is that the radar would not be powerful enough, the crew conditions would much worse, and it would be much easier to be shot down by missiles. This is such a tin pot idea lmao. Who even come up with this if it wasn't for ego's sake.

This is not a new concept at all.
Russians were using Ka-31 AEW (exported to India and China), UK used Sea King as AEW previously

 

[GiantCanofWater]

how important is air superiority in naval warfare? Is it also top priority?

 

[lcloo]

how important is air superiority in naval warfare? Is it also top priority?

Very very important.

Pearl Habour, Battle of Midway, Sinking of British Battlecruisers HMS Repulse and Prince of Wales, sinking of Japanese battleship Yamato, sinking of German battleship Bismarck, Falkland war, the list can go on.

 

[GiantCanofWater]

Very very important.

Pearl Habour, Battle of Midway, Sinking of British Battlecruisers HMS Repulse and Prince of Wales, sinking of Japanese battleship Yamato, sinking of German battleship Bismarck, Falkland war, the list can go on.

Why is China building so many ships like frigates then? Shouldn’t China shift the ship building to building masses on masses of Jets and anything anti-aircraft/air superiority? The US and their allies still have more planes than China does and the B-21 seems especially scary. Plus with developments in anti ship missiles like LRASMs isn’t that making ships even less relevant?

 

[Nevermore]

Why is China building so many ships like frigates then? Shouldn’t China shift the ship building to building masses on masses of Jets and anything anti-aircraft/air superiority? The US and their allies still have more planes than China does and the B-21 seems especially scary. Plus with developments in anti ship missiles like LRASMs isn’t that making ships even less relevant?

The production of Chinese fighter jets is actually very fast, and the existing fighter jet fleet is more than enough to defend the homeland. China is more willing to wait for more advanced fighter jets to be mass-produced. It should be noted that if the number of J-20 fighter jets continues to increase at the highest production rate, it may exceed demand and disrupt the update plan for the sixth generation fighter jets.