The Kashmir conflict 2025.

[burritocannon]

uttam seems like a joke like whats the t/r module count on that thing?
also india got shafted by a lack of engines half a century ago making the marut and they still havent realized how critical indigenous turbine manufacturing is for aerospace? look at turkey's kaan and what they're doing.

 

[ohan_qwe]

If India can get Su-57 then that would provide a huge boost to their capabilities, but I just don't see Su-35 being very effective against PAF, for reasons I've explained.

If India ever wants to become a true military power, then the only route it can choose is to build up its domestic MIC. Whether or it can do so successfully is an entirely different matter. A nation relying on imports for most of its critical weapons systems can never become a credible military power.

A more realistic goal for India would be to beat Pakistan in the air instead of "true military power" I'm not convinced that domestic products is the way to go for air superiority the next decade.

I for example is from Sweden and having JAS39 Gripen don't make us better than Finland with F-35.

Su-57 should be the most realistic way for India to beat J-10.

 

[4Runner]

I think kill web or kill mesh is a more accurate term.

I think the term or concept of "a kill chain" was proposed by some US general(s) many years. It has appeared in some speeches or articles around the time Donald Rumsfeld et al. proposed "Revolution in Military Affairs" (RMA). So I just borrowed the term here as Chinese have not proposed their own terms in the military literatures. In essence, I would agree with you, that it is really a real-time mesh network.

 

[siegecrossbow]

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[FriedRiceNSpice]

A more realistic goal for India would be to beat Pakistan in the air instead of "true military power" I'm not convinced that domestic products is the way to go for air superiority next decade.

That is not possible. In the next decade, PAF will likely have access to J-35s, for which India will have no answer. India should stop engaging in senseless provocations towards its neighbors and focus on national development.

Su-57 should be the most realistic way for India to beat J-10.

I mentioned multiple times that India should be trying to acquire Su-57s, but I still think J-35s should have a significant edge, given Chinese advantages in stealth, sensor, and electronics technology.

 

[Gloire_bb]

uttam seems like a joke like whats the t/r module count on that thing?
also india got shafted by a lack of engines half a century ago making the marut and they still havent realized how critical indigenous turbine manufacturing is for aerospace? look at turkey's kaan and what they're doing.

Uttams in fact are very good in TRM counts. And that's the problem, because they get superior TRM rate the exact same way as all other modern radars - using GaN ones. I.e. completely new and still unfinished technology.
There're members on this forums which treat GaN as a yesterday tech essentially, but there are only 3* GaN fighter radars in worldwide service as of today, and quite obviously India isn't on the list. Sometimes you'd want to settle on inferior TRM counts, but actually in service. Weapon you'll have tomorrow means today you have no weapon.
*even then, not sure about JF-17.

 

[4Runner]

That is not possible. In the next decade, PAF will likely have access to J-35s, for which India will have no answer. India should stop engaging in senseless provocations towards its neighbors and focus on national development.

This is the "India Conundrum" (invented here). On the one hand, "engaging in senseless provocations towards its neighbors" is already in its body memory since its inception. On the other hand, "domestic products is the way to go for air superiority next decade" and "India" are oxymoron. We, the Chinese born in 50s/60s/70s know too well what it took China to get where China is today. I could write a dissertation in "What the Chinese have sacrificed for modernization". Look at the history of modern India and the only thing feasible is wishful thinking.

 

[ohan_qwe]

That is not possible. In the next decade, PAF will likely have access to J-35s, for which India will have no answer. India should stop engaging in senseless provocations towards its neighbors and focus on national development.


I mentioned multiple times that India should be trying to acquire Su-57s, but I still think J-35s should have a significant edge, given Chinese advantages in stealth, sensor, and electronics technology.

For the future India should try to join FCAS or GCAP. Trying to beat Chinese tech with domestic stuff is daydreaming.

GCAP is already international with Japan and UK as members while FCAS currently look like an EU project.

 

[siegecrossbow]

This is the "India Conundrum" (invented here). On the one hand, "engaging in senseless provocations towards its neighbors" is already in its body memory since its inception. On the other hand, "domestic products is the way to go for air superiority next decade" and "India" are oxymoron. We, the Chinese born in 50s/60s/70s know too well what it took China to get where China is today. I could write a dissertation in "What the Chinese have sacrificed for modernization". Look at the history of modern India and the only thing feasible is wishful thinking.

The problem is that the Indian military serves the purpose of BJP propaganda nowadays. Modi had a large hand in the military reform as well as Rafale acquisition. Admitting fault means hurting political legitimacy. There is also the importance of being seen as a legitimate military counterweight to China as a way to attract Western support and investment.

 

[AndrewJ]

Attention: The conventional war may be over. But the separatist war is just beginning.

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