China ICBM/SLBM, nuclear arms thread

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Ringsword

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W20 said:
"How could all this happen? How could (neo) fascism rise and take over US domestic and US foreign policy ?"

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Well, it's simple. The Mind Software of the West was a fusion of Roman imperial ideology and bloody fantasy pamphlets where a big rag doll in hands of Aramaic ventriloquists says: - I have chosen you for the Domination of "the people of the land" of "the land of Canaan".

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The Romans said: - Domination, extermination, mass killings with a strong genocidal impulse, OMG, This is clearly the true religion, and we just need to make a small adjustment: where the bloody pamphlets says 'land,' we put '(planet) earth'.

This old fusion has been reissued many times in the West until the last version encouraged by Zionist fascism. In other words, it has been a two-way street.
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We have always wondered if Rome were to fight Han China-what would happen?-both at strength-I may live to see this as things are going.
 
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antiterror13

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ACuriousPLAFan said:
The 2025 Posture Statement from the US Strategic Command (USSTRATCOM) has been published.

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Two brief key comments on China:
1. China now has more than 600 nuclear warheads, and is on track to possess more than 1000 nuclear warheads by 2030.
2. STRATCOM officially recognizes the 6x 094/A SSBNs as China's "first credible sea-based nuclear deterrent" platforms.
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I don't think they have any clues of how many nukes China has, just wild guessing. I wouldn't be surprised if China already possess more than 1,000 nukes now (nobody really have any proof ).
 
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Biscuits

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totenchan said:
Isn't the obvious response an explosion in deployments in missile defense like every other country does when faced with a new nuclear state? There's already at least one HQ-19 deployment directed at the Korean peninsula, maybe more. I don't see why China would resort to strikes when the development of nuclear weapons by the North has already happened without a military response. It's not like its Taiwan or anything.
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Asia is China's backyard. Acquiring a credible nuke would make them immune to China's blackmail and conversely able to blackmail China for economic/political relief.

Same reason Israel doesn't want Iran to get nukes. The former is only held back from strikes by lacking capability. If Israel was 50x+ larger, could level every building in half of Iran without even committing most of their forces and rain uninterceptable ballistic missiles all over Iran bases, they would without a doubt strike Iran on the first sign of enrichment let alone nukes. Which is what would happen to SK or Japan, they're not even allowed to start enriching.

US not responding to NK nuclearizing is because they don't have the power balance to do it in the region. If China didn't exist, you could bet US would also attack them.
 
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Kalec

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Kalec said:
China about to have three ICBM launch windows in the early morning of 10/25/2024.

A typical ICBM launch from Taiyuan or Jilantai, shame they don't continue to launch into the Pacific Ocean.

The launch notable comes with five NOTAM zones with three of them overlapping together and the impact point is Minfeng ICBM impact zone.

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Notam data:
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Kalec said:
ICBM tests went on September 17, still not clear whether it was from Taiyuan or Jilantai.

Which set it apart from previous tests is, there were actually two ICBM tests simultaneously and their drop zones were almost identical except very slight difference. Overall they had seven drop zones.
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The second one is a werido, never seen such drop zones like this before.
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NOTAM raw info:
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Just find out the 09/2023 launch was mentioned in DoD's report as

"In September 2023, the PRC launched two CSS-10 Mod 3 ICBMs in quick succession from training silos into Western China.
This launch probably validated the PLARF’s ability to rapidly launch multiple missiles, a key part of an early warning counterstrike capability."

Then it is becoming clear that 10/2024 launch was, too, quick double launches or even triple launches to test rapid counterstrike capability.
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DIA's new placemat is one of the few public official estimates of foreign hypersonic and fractional orbital bombardment weapons (FOBS).
China today: 600 HGV*, 400 ICBM, 72 SLBM, 1000 LACM
China 2035: 4000 HGV*, 700 ICBM, 132+ SLBM, 5000 LACM, 60 FOBS *includes aeroballistics

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The 600 HGV figure is a bit surprising (especially given the DoD's penchant for gross undercounts), is this mainly just the DF-17 + 27 + maybe a handful of IC range nuclear HGVs & air launched ones?
 
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totenchan

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ismellcopium said:
The 600 HGV figure is a bit surprising (especially given the DoD's penchant for gross undercounts), is this mainly just the DF-17 + 27 + maybe a handful of IC range nuclear HGVs & air launched ones?
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The image says they are including aeroballistic missiles in that group for some reason, so I wouldn't take it as only including pure HGVs like DF-17 and 27
 
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gpt said:
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DIA's new placemat is one of the few public official estimates of foreign hypersonic and fractional orbital bombardment weapons (FOBS).
China today: 600 HGV*, 400 ICBM, 72 SLBM, 1000 LACM
China 2035: 4000 HGV*, 700 ICBM, 132+ SLBM, 5000 LACM, 60 FOBS *includes aeroballistics

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Given the high ICBM/SLBM numbers, it appears as if PLA isn't a fan of MIRVs?
 
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