The Kashmir conflict 2025.

[N00B]

Where is the evidence that an airbase was hit? What was the damage? That is evidence that an explosion occurred somewhere.

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So they decided that X was a security concern but Telegram isn't for some reason. Telegram is much less used than Twitter.

Most of these OSINT stuff get posted there first, for some reason.

Twitter claims the Indian government threatened the arrest of their staff in the country if they didn't suspend some 80,000 accounts. You didn't see this?

Um yeah, like I said, they banned some Twitter handles (mostly Pakistanis). But that won't stop Indians from screaming if they saw Hindon AFB going up in smoke. Indians have full access to Twitter and other places.

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That's not a media blackout! They turned the lights off at night. This is an absolutely basic procedure during wartime.

That's called spinning. That's like saying the president is fat and likes to eat so terrorists molotoving his favorite restaurant is the same as blowing up the White House.

There is no spinning. You are talking about their 'capitalness'. Nowhere I used the work capital. I meant importance.

Could you find any more clips of Indian AFBs getting blown up?

 

[neutralobserver]

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Most of these OSINT stuff get posted there first, for some reason.



Um yeah, like I said, they banned some Twitter handles (mostly Pakistanis). But that won't stop Indians from screaming if they saw Hindon AFB going up in smoke. Indians have full access to Twitter and other places.



That's not a media blackout! They turned the lights off at night. This is an absolutely basic procedure during wartime.



There is no spinning. You are talking about their 'capitalness'. Nowhere I used the work capital. I meant importance.

Could you find any more clips of Indian AFBs getting blown up?

Dude, no operational air base was taken out. What are you even talking about? Isolated Missile strikes don't take out air bases.

C130 taking out from the very same air base India struck last night:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1921046196526764375

You are talking as if India launched massive air strikes and annihilated those air bases. India resorted to missiles because obviously IAF hand to stand down. Again, not saying Pakistan was perfect. We clearly have vulnerabilities as far as air defence is concerned and need to work on that ASAP but it wasn't a one sided affair.

 

[neutralobserver]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1921067376113582281

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1921135049803538905

 

[N00B]

Dude, no operational air base was taken out. What are you even talking about? Isolated Missile strikes don't take out air bases.

C130 taking out from the very same air base India struck last night:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1921046196526764375

You are talking as if India launched massive air strikes and annihilated those air bases. India resorted to missiles because obviously IAF hand to stand down. Again, not saying Pakistan was perfect. We clearly have vulnerabilities as far as air defence is concerned and need to work on that ASAP but it wasn't a one sided affair.

Agreed. None of these bases were 'taken out', as in completely destroyed. But India did bomb quite a few of them whereas I have seen similar attack only one Indian base so far.

It is certainly possible PAF has lost more aircraft than India atm. In a limited war, bean counting is all we can do.

 

[neutralobserver]

It is certainly possible PAF has lost more aircraft than India atm. In a limited war, bean counting is all we can do.

Any proofs or is this based on your gut feeling? Did IAF claim any kill? All PAF Fighter jets are accounted for. The only aircraft we lost was on the ground C130 that is operated by the Pakistan Army.

 

[N00B]

Any proofs or is this based on your gut feeling? Did IAF claim any kill? All PAF Fighter jets are accounted for. The only aircraft we lost was on the ground C130 that is operated by the Pakistan Army.

Gut feeling. An airbase being lit up is bound to damage a jet or two. I am not paying much attention to claims on either side. The video footages are real.

 

[phrozenflame]

Expect 2019 playbook on steroids. BJP IT cell is in full swing to change facts, French are lying, Americans are lying, everyone is lying. We have not seen a single footage of 100s of drone debris shot over Kashmir the night before, the captured F-16 pilot, the 2 Jeffs and much more. In this very thread we have alternate view of Nur Khan hit being shown as Shorkot hit, so on etc.

 

[GiantPanda]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1921067376113582281

This war for the rest of the world, especially the West, is mostly about the J-10 shooting down the Rafale.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

India should be reconsidering its decisions in everything right now.

The big issue is that leaving the Su-57 program and acquiring Rafales were personally pushed for by Modi. He believes that Rafale EW was superior to Su-57 physical stealth with IWB and shaping.

This turned out to be a huge mistake as Su-57 has been used in Ukraine yet never caught on radar or shot down, while Rafale gets shot down 100 km inside India. It is clear now that no amount of EW can compensate for physical vulnerability.

Their west worship has resulted in the worst blunder in IAF history.

I am very confident that if that had been a Su-57 and not a Rafale, at the very least, it wouldn't have been shot down minutes after takeoff in India's own territory.

 

[pokepara]

I have to confess that behavior of certain members is a revelation. They legit wanted Pakistan to keep fighting in order to bleed India just so they could enjoy the show. Its like "you have weapons, you fight war & we will enjoy seeing you fight". This is a transactional approach that is childish to say the least.

Pakistan's weakness is its economy & fuel stocks. We have enough ammunition to continue. What most people do not understand is that Pakistan is actually a very heavily armed society. We can raise armies in no time, but that needs an existential threat to happen. This ceasefire in tossing of missiles after India lost the air battle seems to have displease some jingoistic voyeurs.

Agreed, except it's worse than transactional. At least the American empire has something to gain from egging on war. Those that support Pakistan or Indian should have the same conclusion on how to proceed: self-improvement. Not just their military, but their economy and society.