PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

Biscuits

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Ah, I see, so you have no actual evidence of ANY rounds that use the full bore of the UVLS. Got it.


Umm, I don't think you even know what you're flatulating at this point. The guy in question is undoubtedly a PLA fanboi, NOT a US military fanboi.


Duh. OTOH the PLAN has far more 052Ds than it has 055s, and the US has far more Burkes than it has any other ships. So if you make the comparison, sure I'll it too.


Ah, I see, so you have no actual evidence of the capabilities of ANY combat data systems. Got it.
Go read up on current PLA then come back with your next reply
 

Iron Man

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Go read up on current PLA then come back with your next reply

(there's clearly something very wrong with knowledge levels if someone has no clues about the specs revealed during Zhuhai or the publicly gathered info on VLS/combat systems)
Ah so, I see, "publicly gathered info on VLS/combat systems". Which you are completely unable to provide. Got it. :D
 

Xiongmao

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And which twit do you claim is forgetting this? Also, perhaps you can make a knowledgeable argument about what the approximate quantity of "locally supportable" USN actually is. I also suppose you think there is some kind of magical maritime Great Wall where the USN's Atlantic assets are somehow magically prevented from sailing over to the Pacific to replace destroyed Pacific assets because... reasons
I thought that was 093B's job?
 

Iron Man

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I thought that was 093B's job?
Yes, but IMO only in China's southern flank. The eastern Indian Ocean, the Malacca Straits, Indonesian waters, the SCS. They have some protection from land-based assets and the US military is not strong there. OTOH I would guess that the Western Pacific outside of the 1IC and parts of the 2IC will have to wait for the 095, as I have my doubts on the acoustics level of the 093B and how safe it is for this class to operate where the USN is strong.
 

Xiongmao

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Yes, but IMO only in China's southern flank. The Malacca Straits, Indonesian waters, the SCS, the eastern Indian Ocean. They have some protection from land-based assets and the US military is not strong there. OTOH I would guess that the Western Pacific outside of the 1IC and parts of the 2IC will have to wait for the 095, as I have my doubts on the acoustics level of the 093B and how safe it is for this class to operate where the USN is strong.
Well I think the PLAN must be happy with the 093B's acoustics else why would they be having a big production surge of it currently? I read someone say that once the 093B makes it out to blue water, it is very hard to find again. You don't know and I don't know, we only know that the PLAN must think they got something because they going gangbusters on making these things.
 

Iron Man

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Well I think the PLAN must be happy with the 093B's acoustics else why would they be having a big production surge of it currently? I read someone say that once the 093B makes it out to blue water, it is very hard to find again. You don't know and I don't know, we only know that the PLAN must think they got something because they going gangbusters on making these things.
There may be a number of reasons the 093B is being produced en masse at this time. It may have reached an acoustic/technological level where the PLAN is at least ok with, if not totally happy with, to be deployed in large numbers. It may also be needed imminently for an impending Taiwan scenario. The problem for the PLAN is that the entire 1IC is lined with underwater hydrophones hosted by countries friendly to the US, significantly limiting a sub's breakout capability, especially one that may or may not be fully modern. Beyond national pride, there are some very important geostrategic reasons for China to recover Taiwan, and this is one of them. There are also multiple US bases in the area that can send MPAs and other ASW assets out to the 2IC to search for and/or track subs that are not present in the SCS, for example.
 

bsdnf

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The imagined US Navy: Before the war begins, the reserve fleet will be restored to fight to the death with the PLAN
The real US Navy: The dockyard is already overloaded, and the existing fleet cannot even be repaired on schedule.

Anyone who has seen the rotation schedule of US aircraft carriers knows that the condition of the aircraft carrier fleet is surprisingly poor. Ships are either delayed for years and unable to enter the dock for maintenance, or delayed for several years after entering the dock and unable to leave the port again.

Existing fleet has problems, and the new one is certainly not much better.US Navy's technological prowess is still worthy of awe, such as SPY-6 and Burke 3. But the world is material, and first they have to have ships. DDG-129 was finally launched recently, but its laydown time should be August 16, 2022, more than 950 days ago. LHA 8 Bougainville started construction in mid-2016, about a year earlier than the 003, but 003 will be commissioned this year, and Bougainville has not yet started its first sea trial since its launch. In addition to overcoming the problem of insufficient shipbuilding capabilities, the US Navy must also overcome the problem of radar and other armament production. It has been a year and a half since DDG-128 Burke 3 was launch, but it is still a long way from being commissioned, and even the integration of the SPY6 radar has not started. LHA 8's also still does not have a radar.

PLAN has not even faced a head-on confrontation, and the USN fleet is already shrinking. This is why I think China's decision-makers have no intention of unifying by force in the short term. They are using the atmosphere of the escalating situation to mobilize society, but it is the US military that is really anxious about balance of power and may trigger a war.
 
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