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Eventine

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H-1b is not much less. what happens is that people at middle ages get expensive and there skills stale. This is just reality. you can already observe German Chancellor wants more Indians. This whole Mideast is run by Indians.
i presume China also does not need Indian doctors which is among largest in US.
Yeah, it’s just another chapter of the current corporate battle for cheap, youthful labor as societies age. It’s inevitable due to demographics. If they could get Chinese labor they would but they can’t because Chinese aren’t coming to the West in the same numbers.
 

quim

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You can't just draw arrows on a map, otherwise it's the same as those like Peter Thiel who think for example they can realistically exile China from its core populated territories (like Taiwan) without risking nuclear MAD. The natural conclusion to what you write above is that there will be nuclear exchange, which at the present China cannot sufficiently defeat in the air.

Being realistic, we see that US will retain for a long time the basic capability of MAD with China. But positively, we also see that mainland US by itself will not develop very much. Instead, US' dangerous capabilities come from their access to SK, Japan and even Indian/EU foreign workers. These are areas that China can realistically reverse/destroy/annex with a combination of military and political pressure.

China should assume a multi stage strategy to divide up the failing US empire, with a focus of first depriving the areas it can use industrially and to farm talents. It should grab SK and Japan with any means possible and encourage or failing that forcibly install anti-Americanism in those countries. It should wage a limited war to prevent US expansionism in Taiwan and at the same time seize strategic objectives (such as Ryukyu, Philippines, Guam) from US. To take out India, it can mainly use economic/intel agency coercion like they're already doing. To take out EU, it is likely it can be done by further enhancing Russian revanchism. Western Europe or India doesn't need to die, just get impoverished/busy with ethnic riots/Russian action enough they can't send proper talents to US. And in the mainland USA, China should continue to encourage political extremism of different flavors.

These moves executed from the 2027-2035 timespan will setup for a next generation 20 years or so later to take the fight to Hawaii, Mexico, Alaska. Annexing the US mainland is pointless, a final victory scenario of directly or indirectly owning the above 3 areas and turning the west coast into a demilitarized zone will achieve China's long term goal of returning the great barbarian empires to the irrelevance they were before the Qing's great mistake.
As long as China is a non-interventionist country, none of what you suggest is possible.

At most, all China can do is invest in local talent to reduce its dependence on Western technology and avoid major damage in the event of widespread sanctions across the economy, such as those in the semiconductor sector.

China does not have the soft power to use its media to install an anti-US regime in South Korea and Japan. And the war in Europe has only accelerated the number of European and Russian talents going to work in the US and escaping the European decline.

And on top of that, with Russia and NATO moving towards a stalemate agreement on Ukraine, China will not be able to count on Russia's M.A.D. power when the US focuses on Asia with Trump.

With the agreement in force, Russia will only be officially neutral at best, selling oil and wheat to all sides, but without involving its military and nuclear force in Asia.
 

coolgod

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Philippines’ introduction of US Typhon mid-range missile system a provocative and dangerous move: Chinese FM​

In response to the Philippine military’s plan to acquire the US Typhon mid-range missile system, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Mao Ning stated at a regular press conference on Monday that the Chinese side has repeatedly elaborated its solemn stance of firm opposition on the US’ deployment of mid-range missiles in the Philippines.

I want to reiterate that the introduction by the Philippines of such a mid-range missile system, which is both strategic and offensive, is a provocative and dangerous move in coordination with external forces to create regional tensions, incites geopolitical confrontation, and provokes an arms race. This is an extremely irresponsible decision for the people of the Philippines, Southeast Asian countries, the history, and regional security, Mao said.
The region needs peace and prosperity, not mid-range missiles and confrontation. We once again urge the Philippine side to heed the voices of regional countries and their people, correct this wrong move as soon as possible, and withdraw the Typhon missile system in accordance with previous public commitments, so as not to continue down the wrong path, the spokesperson said.

Genius pinoy move: Antagonize China some more when Korea and Japan are getting closer to China. I guess somebody has got to take one for the team, this scenario seems to be the consensus from the western think tanks. It makes sense for a lot of reasons, the global economy would not really be effected.

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Mearsheimer recently gave an interview to Chinese media, pretty interesting.
 
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Biscuits

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As long as China is a non-interventionist country, none of what you suggest is possible.
You have made a mistake in thinking that the Chinese government is a saint, just because the Chinese civilization lost the war on the Anglo civilization 100s of years ago and became an underdog does not make them moral saints.

Beijing and the people they represent will still stop at nothing ensure China's prosperity and primacy, including any underhanded method. And if US will be a threat to that, they will be dealt with.
At most, all China can do is invest in local talent to reduce its dependence on Western technology
It is US that's dependent on Asia's technology. What is US' electronics production capability if they can't import chips nor refined materials from China, Japan or Korea?
and avoid major damage in the event of widespread sanctions across the economy, such as those in the semiconductor sector.
China doesn't have to sanction US and hope those countries follow. It can straight up military ultimatum them and bomb out the semiconductor facilities if they refuse.

US will lose its entire tech sector then if it cannot ensure continued imports.
China does not have the soft power to use its media to install an anti-US regime in South Korea and Japan. And the war in Europe has only accelerated the number of European and Russian talents going to work in the US and escaping the European decline.
Again you misunderstand, where did I name soft power?

I'm saying that after they finish their military preparations, China can simply threaten anyone into giving up US. Those that go diehard with US will get invaded.
And on top of that, with Russia and NATO moving towards a stalemate agreement on Ukraine,
A landlocked Ukranian lviv rump state more often than not simply impedes the EU.
China will not be able to count on Russia's M.A.D.
Why would they care about Russia's added combat ability? Theyre just going to borrow Russian space to fire at EU countries if EU countries act aggressive to China. Russia adds very little besides political power and resources to China.
power when the US focuses on Asia with Trump.
That's what China has been raring to do as well, for a fascist to come to Asia so it will be easy to justify vast territorial expansions.

Ideally Trump will fire the first shot, but I'm sure China can false flag it.
With the agreement in force, Russia will only be officially neutral at best, selling oil and wheat to all sides, but without involving its military and nuclear force in Asia.
Russia in the Asian front brings a laughable capability compared to China. What they will do is to stay "neutral" and fly around providing some free, most likely redundant ISR to China. They do more good doing that then fighting directly with US. And as is tradition like with Japan in ww2, they swoop in at the end, declare war on all the half dead NATO and seize new territories.
 

Randomuser

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Yeah, it’s just another chapter of the current corporate battle for cheap, youthful labor as societies age. It’s inevitable due to demographics. If they could get Chinese labor they would but they can’t because Chinese aren’t coming to the West in the same numbers

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They can easily get more Chinese but they choose not to. Hidden prejudice and lack of nepotism at top levels prevents it.

That their problem anyway. Even if Chinese do get a job in the US, it's only a matter of time before they go back home to use their experience to reach their real potential. For those who already had success in high paying fields, it's not even about the money but self-actualization which they can't find in the US anymore.
 

pmc

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Yeah, it’s just another chapter of the current corporate battle for cheap, youthful labor as societies age. It’s inevitable due to demographics. If they could get Chinese labor they would but they can’t because Chinese aren’t coming to the West in the same numbers.
Chinese also going out otherwise how can UAE got 400,000 Chinese diaspora so fast and this tourism increase. I will think Saudi will surpass these numbers at some point.

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quim

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You have made a mistake in thinking that the Chinese government is a saint, just because the Chinese civilization lost the war on the Anglo civilization 100s of years ago and became an underdog does not make them moral saints.

Beijing and the people they represent will still stop at nothing ensure China's prosperity and primacy, including any underhanded method. And if US will be a threat to that, they will be dealt with.

It is US that's dependent on Asia's technology. What is US' electronics production capability if they can't import chips nor refined materials from China, Japan or Korea?

China doesn't have to sanction US and hope those countries follow. It can straight up military ultimatum them and bomb out the semiconductor facilities if they refuse.

US will lose its entire tech sector then if it cannot ensure continued imports.

Again you misunderstand, where did I name soft power?

I'm saying that after they finish their military preparations, China can simply threaten anyone into giving up US. Those that go diehard with US will get invaded.

A landlocked Ukranian lviv rump state more often than not simply impedes the EU.

Why would they care about Russia's added combat ability? Theyre just going to borrow Russian space to fire at EU countries if EU countries act aggressive to China. Russia adds very little besides political power and resources to China.

That's what China has been raring to do as well, for a fascist to come to Asia so it will be easy to justify vast territorial expansions.

Ideally Trump will fire the first shot, but I'm sure China can false flag it.

Russia in the Asian front brings a laughable capability compared to China. What they will do is to stay "neutral" and fly around providing some free, most likely redundant ISR to China. They do more good doing that then fighting directly with US. And as is tradition like with Japan in ww2, they swoop in at the end, declare war on all the half dead NATO and seize new territories.
I didn't say that China is saint. Being non-interventionist means that China does not have enough power to intervene in the world without suffering retaliation that would be detrimental to its own economy.

And so there is little that China can do to prevent US interventions against China, other than prepare for sanctions.
 

proelite

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They can easily get more Chinese but they choose not to. Hidden prejudice and lack of nepotism at top levels prevents it.

That their problem anyway. Even if Chinese do get a job in the US, it's only a matter of time before they go back home to use their experience to reach their real potential. For those who already had success in high paying fields, it's not even about the money but self-actualization which they can't find in the US anymore.

FY 2020 is that before lockdown?
 
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