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"China sends inter-agency working group to handle Oct. 6 terrorist attack in
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. The working group met intensively with heads of Pakistani Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Ministry of Interior, and military, police and intelligence departments. While in Pakistan, the working group mourned the Chinese victims, and visited the injured in the hospital and the company's employees at the project camp."

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Wolf Warrior 3 crew should be on site right now filming.
 
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They keep boasting about Taiwan having a high GDP per Capita or whatever crap to say it's rich.

Like what's the point if a lot of that money is getting ripped off.
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It's rich just because the other major/strategic Chinese cities are rich. Beijing isn't going to piss off popular sentiment by ghettofying Taiwan just because of the KMT infestation. So they got to partake in the national reconstruction.

If KMT ran the whole country, they would have run it around ages ago with way lower gdp per capita. They can barely keep some of China's historically richest areas on par with other 1st tier areas.
 
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Randomuser said:
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They keep boasting about Taiwan having a high GDP per Capita or whatever crap to say it's rich.

Like what's the point if a lot of that money is getting ripped off.
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That high per capita is assigned due to value of exports that are used in other countries. Taiwan median salary is Eastern EU and PPP will be even lower and birth rates are trending lower than South Korean. so who knows in this FMS packages there is more contractors support. and Taiwan not capable of auditing these sales. I mean when is overcharging foreign customers a priority unless they have done some political contributions.
 
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iewgnem said:
Something the size of HSU-001 definitely does not need a dedicated submarine yard to build, and certainly not nuclear certified yard. Huludao will build non-nuclear subs long before they start building UUVs, and there's no evidence they're doing even that.
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The point is that in terms of shipyards used to building military grade underwater vehicles, you've only got Huludao and Wuchang. Given that UUVs are likely the next progression in underwater technology, it is logical to use these 2 existing shipyards. Remember that they both have commercial shipbuilding businesses, which are obviously not nuclear-certified.

iewgnem said:
The USN currently has 53x SSN, 13x SSBN and 4x SSGN for total of 71, it building 1.5x Virgina a year trying to ramp up to 2 a year, has a total of 12x Columbia ordered that won't enter service until 2030s, all 4x SSGN are schedule for retirement by 2028 and almost all Los Angeles boats will be retired by 2035, which means in 10 years US will have, assuming they can ramp up Virgina and Columbia stays on schedule, ~40x Virginia SSN, ~14x Ohios and ~2x Columbia.

So even if we start at 6+6 for China today (it's almost certainly higher), and not counting the 4 new bays added at Huludao, not counting bays prior to 2016 expansion, not counting conventional subs or semi-nuclear subs, in 10 years we're looking at conservatively 72x vs 56x, and if that's not enough for dominance, then give it 15 years for China 100 vs 70.
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iewgnem said:
Sure submarines alone isn't enough to ensure global dominance over USN, which is where China's massive surface fleet construction and global prompt strike systems comes in. Remember, SSN was the USN's last saving grace.
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Even 100 vs 70 isn't enough for dominance. Remember that "dominance" comprises domains underwater, on the surface and in the air.

Currently, Chinese SSNs operating beyond the 2IC will be operating alone in a high-intensity conflict. So when these Chinese SSNs approach an enemy CSG, the SSN will face a situation where the other side has control of the air, and therefore the ability to use helicopters and MPAs to go after the SSN.

Therefore Chinese dominance will also require enough aircraft carriers, which will probably take another 10-15 years.
 
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