Russia is not going to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine.
Also, the Polish Army isn't that tough. It's actually pretty small, don't let their spending spree fool you.
The War in the Ukraine
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Russia is not going to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine.
Also, the Polish Army isn't that tough. It's actually pretty small, don't let their spending spree fool you.
Russians dropped an ODAB-1500 into a base of Ukrainian FPV drone operators. This at Stanislav, right bank of the Dniepr.
LMUR (X-39) launched from a Ka-52M.
Ukrainian Akasya SPG taken out by Lancet with thermal imager.
Battle of Chasiv Yar. Eastern district is in flames as it is being stormed.
Glide FABs arrive at Pokrvosk.
Ukrainian T-64BV taken out by a Lancet strike.
The 98th VDV sends FPV drones into Ukrainian fortifications.
Su-25 on air strike at Urozhayne using S-13 NARS.
Abandoned Ukrainian MRAP finished off by FPV drone.
A Ukrainian transport carrying troops got intercepted by an FPV drone. This in the Evegnovka village, Ocheretino direction.
Tula VDV working on Ukrainian positions using the 100mm of a BMD-4N.
Ka-52 finishes off a Ukrainian vehicle with a Vikhr ATGM.
Piece of drone recovered from Voronezh-M radar attack, a British Portuguese Tekever AR-3. This was shot down over Krasnodar region.
Destruction of Ukrainian held bridge at Novoselka, Yuzhno-Donetsk.
Hyacinth-S of the 40th Marine Brigade takes out an M777 firing cluster munitions. Counterbattery with drone adjustment.
Fire at the outskirts of Lugansk due to HIMARS attack, some of the missiles reportedly shot down.
Ukrainian tank explodes in Krasnogorovka area.
Ukrainian MiG-29 shot down over the Volchansk area by an S-400. A second one managed to escape.
Remnants of UMPB D-30SN in the Epicenter warehouse strike in Kharkhiv.
T-80BVM marked with Group North markings headed to the front.
Compilation of FPV drone, Lancet and Krasnopol strikes by the 6th Brigade in the Kharkhiv region.
Not linked. A Bradley was taken out by the Rooks SPN unit, but the troops within it managed to disembark to further their assault. However they were suppressed with artillery fire from the 238th Brigade.
LMUR (X-39) launched from a Ka-52M.
Ukrainian Akasya SPG taken out by Lancet with thermal imager.
Battle of Chasiv Yar. Eastern district is in flames as it is being stormed.
Glide FABs arrive at Pokrvosk.
Ukrainian T-64BV taken out by a Lancet strike.
The 98th VDV sends FPV drones into Ukrainian fortifications.
Su-25 on air strike at Urozhayne using S-13 NARS.
Abandoned Ukrainian MRAP finished off by FPV drone.
A Ukrainian transport carrying troops got intercepted by an FPV drone. This in the Evegnovka village, Ocheretino direction.
Tula VDV working on Ukrainian positions using the 100mm of a BMD-4N.
Ka-52 finishes off a Ukrainian vehicle with a Vikhr ATGM.
Piece of drone recovered from Voronezh-M radar attack, a British Portuguese Tekever AR-3. This was shot down over Krasnodar region.
Destruction of Ukrainian held bridge at Novoselka, Yuzhno-Donetsk.
Hyacinth-S of the 40th Marine Brigade takes out an M777 firing cluster munitions. Counterbattery with drone adjustment.
Fire at the outskirts of Lugansk due to HIMARS attack, some of the missiles reportedly shot down.
Ukrainian tank explodes in Krasnogorovka area.
Ukrainian MiG-29 shot down over the Volchansk area by an S-400. A second one managed to escape.
Remnants of UMPB D-30SN in the Epicenter warehouse strike in Kharkhiv.
T-80BVM marked with Group North markings headed to the front.
Compilation of FPV drone, Lancet and Krasnopol strikes by the 6th Brigade in the Kharkhiv region.
Not linked. A Bradley was taken out by the Rooks SPN unit, but the troops within it managed to disembark to further their assault. However they were suppressed with artillery fire from the 238th Brigade.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Exactly, the Russians won’t use nukes over these strikes. Firstly because they are not relying exclusively on those OTH radars for early warning. They have space based launch detection networks and have agreed to fuse their network with China’s, meaning they will also have access to Chinese monitoring data. The importance will become clear later.
Secondly, Russia’s conventional nuclear arsenal is vast and spread all across its vast hinterlands and it has sea based SSBNs. Any attempt to take out Russian second strike capabilities would need to hit Russia all across the map, meaning the loss of a couple of monitoring sites near Europe doesn’t mean anything. Basically, any counterforce nuclear first strike against Russia will be indistinguishable from a full countervalue all out first strike until the nukes start landing. Meaning the Russians won’t wait, as soon as they see thousands of warheads incoming, they will launch everything they have got. This is why any talk of taking out Russian nukes is just pure idiocy and lunacy.
Taking out these early warning sites is designed as more of the same PR focused troll move from the Ukrainians that will produce zero battlefield benefits for them. The only thing these silly acts will achieve is increase the likelihood of an accidental nuclear exchange as the Russians now have one less data source to rely upon to validate launch detection before responding.
With the OTH radars intact, any space based asset detected launches can be verified by the OTH radar network before the decision is made to launch a retaliatory strike. Without these ground based radars, if there is a glitch in Russia’s space based detection network. They will have no second source of data to double check against before needing to make a launch decision.
And while a full counterforce first strike can be easily ruled out, what would be much harder to rule out without a second system would be a surprise decapitation first strike against Russian leadership on Moscow.
Russia merging its early warning network with China’s might help, but as far as I am aware, that is more to share data and expand each side’s coverage rather than having two mutually redundant systems to check each other’s homework. So the risks remain.
Yeah, they now have to train recruits with constant threat of Russian cruise missiles, that sure looks like a good idea. There would be Yavoriv 2.0, 3.0 and so on.
The talk about "instructors" is laughable.
What could a french instructor that never saw a real war teach Ukrainians that have 2 years of experience in the most intense war since Korean War.
Those french and other nato soldiers will be operating different western weapons in Ukraine.
Not really if its something NATO has adviced Ukraine against doing and they still insisted on. Just like Russian cruise missiles crossing NATO airspace to hit targets in Ukraine hasn't really triggered Art. 5.
Thats a fair point. I doubt there is anything a french "instructor" could provide that couldn't have been provided by the Iraq and Afghanistan veterans that already went to Ukraine and came back saying "nope, not for me". Other than the mistakes the french keep making in Africa.
Same goes for any other NATO "instructor", specially when there has been multiple reports that NATO tactics just don't work in a war like Ukraine.
Russian flag raised over Bilohorivka or Belogorovka.
TOS working on Ukrainian positions in Volchansk.
New Post Office (Novaya Poshta) warehouse at the village of Borovaya in the Kharkhiv region, hit and burning. Russians believe the site is used by the AFU as a logistics center.
Ukrainian DRG hit by Kornet ATGM from the Viking Squad.
Lancet hits a 155mm Bogdan SPG in the Sumy region, where things are heating up for another possible Russian offensive.
Polish Krab SPG takes a direct hit from a Russian BM-21 Grad.
Russian plant Alabuga in Tartarstan to produce 6000 Geran type drones a year as well as Albatross reconnaissance drones. The plant already delivered 4,500 drones by April ahead of schedule.
Another Bukovel-AD EW station gets taken out by Lancet in the Kharkhiv front.
MTU-72 bridge layer gets taken out by Lancet in the Volchansk area.
Battle of Volchansk. Artillery and air strikes generously hit Ukrainian positions.
Ukrainian vehicle hit by an ATGM from the 14th SPN Brigade. The resulting explosion suggest the vehicle was transporting munitions.
AIM-9X fired from a NASAMS launcher takes out possibly a Russian UAV.
LMUR fired from a Ka-52M observed from the third person point of view.
Lancet attacks on Ukrainian artillery.
TOS working on Ukrainian positions in Volchansk.
New Post Office (Novaya Poshta) warehouse at the village of Borovaya in the Kharkhiv region, hit and burning. Russians believe the site is used by the AFU as a logistics center.
Ukrainian DRG hit by Kornet ATGM from the Viking Squad.
Lancet hits a 155mm Bogdan SPG in the Sumy region, where things are heating up for another possible Russian offensive.
Polish Krab SPG takes a direct hit from a Russian BM-21 Grad.
Russian plant Alabuga in Tartarstan to produce 6000 Geran type drones a year as well as Albatross reconnaissance drones. The plant already delivered 4,500 drones by April ahead of schedule.
Another Bukovel-AD EW station gets taken out by Lancet in the Kharkhiv front.
MTU-72 bridge layer gets taken out by Lancet in the Volchansk area.
Battle of Volchansk. Artillery and air strikes generously hit Ukrainian positions.
Ukrainian vehicle hit by an ATGM from the 14th SPN Brigade. The resulting explosion suggest the vehicle was transporting munitions.
AIM-9X fired from a NASAMS launcher takes out possibly a Russian UAV.
LMUR fired from a Ka-52M observed from the third person point of view.
Lancet attacks on Ukrainian artillery.
What's the opinion on this recent actions taken by the Ukrainian politico-military on taking out Russian missile defense warning radar systems? Is this a good strategy to make against Russia by Ukraine by essentially sending a message that there's nowhere in Russia that Ukraine military will not target or out of area and out of reach.
Is this recent action their way to escalate to de-escalate, or is this a tactical adjustment to try and heel the Russians that there's no way for them to winning this conflict militarily without devastating Russia proper itself.
What message is the U.S. and it's European allies are sending to Russia? That there's no limits to when, where and scope of the attack unless Russia concedes and return the territories lost by Ukraine upto the 2014 border.
Is this recent action their way to escalate to de-escalate, or is this a tactical adjustment to try and heel the Russians that there's no way for them to winning this conflict militarily without devastating Russia proper itself.
What message is the U.S. and it's European allies are sending to Russia? That there's no limits to when, where and scope of the attack unless Russia concedes and return the territories lost by Ukraine upto the 2014 border.
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