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[Stierlitz]

This honestly shows that more and more people are pro-US, anti-China in Taiwan sadly.

I don't know if that's true. In comparison to 2020 election, DPP lost approximately 2.6 million voters which is a significant number considering the population size of Taiwan province.

They also benefited majorly from island's electoral system which doesn't allow run offs and U.S. intervention via AIT that broke up the opposition coalition.

 

[Serb]

I don't know if that's true. In comparison to 2020 election, DPP lost approximately 2.6 million voters which is a significant number considering the population size of Taiwan province.

See my previous post, that it's normal for any leading party in the so-called democracies to always perform worse on the following elections.

People simply get bored and vote someone else because they can. That system is made to be very cyclical in nature.

I live beside the EU, and I understand this system very well. What occurred in these Taiwanese elections is very rare. They should've already been out if we follow the norms.

It's incredibly successful for a leading party to repeat 3 election cycles, and still hold 7% lead (as of my knowledge, even impossible).

In reality, DPP should've made a much worse result than this.

It shows that either people are very in line with their policies, or the US has a very strong grip on this country's political system, to be this firm.

 

[TK3600]

This is honestly the reason I believe that for the sake of greater peace, American blood on American soil must be shed in a US instigated conflict be it in Korea, Taiwan or the SCS. A situation where the U.S. is allowed to leave with its Face intact will lead a successive American regime to proclaim that they never lost and will campaign to “restore honour and glory” by harassing and victimising asians in Asia and worldwide.

The way things stand now, a white American soldier can murder two asians on their homeland and suffer no repercussions. Situation is unacceptable and can only be corrected by instilling respect and fear into such westerners, be they white or otherwise.

Did you turn into @emblem21 ?

 

[gelgoog]

In Japan they had the same party ruling the country for decades. I think you are making a mistake in trying to compare the Taiwanese political system to a European one.

 

[Biscuits]

See my previous post, that it's normal for any leading party in the so-called democracies to always perform worse on the following elections.

People simply get bored and vote someone else because they can. That system is made to be very cyclical in nature.

I live beside the EU, and I understand this system very well. What occurred in these Taiwanese elections is very rare. They should've already been out if we follow the norms.

It's incredibly successful for a leading party to repeat 3 election cycles, and still hold 7% lead (as of my knowledge, even impossible).

In reality, DPP should've made a much worse result than this.

It shows that either people are very in line with their policies, or the US has a very strong grip on this country's political system, to be this firm.

Unless DPP/KMT one day ends up having all the complicated international and local legal prequisites to run a country (which has about 0% chance of ever occurring), their word on what they consider a democratic process is not something you can take at face value.

We don't know how the votes are counted, who votes, or what their political legality is.

But generally, voting processes in East Asia don't follow the same pattern as ones in the west. They're much more stable, likely because the culture values the importance of completing a constant plan rather than switching around at the first signs of struggle. Also, East Asia has seen the rise from middle income to high income over just a few generations, while Europe is experiencing steady decline, so parties like CPC or LDP have huge legacy clout, like how Democrats and Republicans dominate fully, because they presided over the rise of America to superpower status.

Both China and Japan had the same party stay in power constantly ever since ww2.

 

[azn_cyniq]

This is honestly the reason I believe that for the sake of greater peace, American blood on American soil must be shed in a US instigated conflict be it in Korea, Taiwan or the SCS. A situation where the U.S. is allowed to leave with its Face intact will lead a successive American regime to proclaim that they never lost and will campaign to “restore honour and glory” by harassing and victimising asians in Asia and worldwide.

The way things stand now, a white American soldier can murder two asians on their homeland and suffer no repercussions. Situation is unacceptable and can only be corrected by instilling respect and fear into such westerners, be they white or otherwise.

I don't completely agree with you. I don't think that war is necessary. If China continues to strengthen its economy and military, as it has been doing for decades, then war with the United States will be unlikely. Americans are stupid, but not that stupid.

However, I agree that Americans are the only ones who want war in Taiwan. If a war breaks out in Taiwan, it will be "US instigated" like you said. Neither China nor Taiwan want war, yet the United States of America and its people continue to push for it.

 

[quim]

This is just a reminder that soft power comes only from hard power, not from commercial relationships.

Japan has been stagnant for 30 years and remains a faithful lackey of the US and will not change as long as the hard power of the US is unquestioned.

The world today sees the US killing Houthis, Iranians and Russians unpunished but no one is killing Americans.

If China wants to see its red lines respected, China will have to prepare to kill and punish militarily anyone who crosses them.

Nothing comes from nothing, so only fools can wait for global power to come from heaven without doing anything, just looking and waiting. China needs to build the strongest military force to be treated as the strongest country.

 

[azn_cyniq]

This is just a reminder that soft power comes only from hard power, not from commercial relationships.

Japan has been stagnant for 30 years and remains a faithful lackey of the US and will not change as long as the hard power of the US is unquestioned.

The world today sees the US killing Houthis, Iranians and Russians unpunished but no one is killing Americans.

If China wants to see its red lines respected, China will have to prepare to kill and punish militarily anyone who crosses them.

Nothing comes from nothing, so only fools can wait for global power to come from heaven without doing anything, just looking and waiting. China needs to build the strongest military force to be treated as the strongest country.

China shouldn't use military force unless it is absolutely necessary. It is one thing to hate a country because the media tells you to, and it is another thing to hate a country because people from that country killed your friends and family members. This kind of hate drives people to do seemingly incomprehensible things such as fly a commercial airliner into the World Trade Center or book a one-way trip to Mumbai with the intent of killing as many people as possible. There is a reason why many people in the world hate Americans and Israelis to a degree that is almost incomprehensible to us.

 

[Biscuits]

This is just a reminder that soft power comes only from hard power, not from commercial relationships.

Japan has been stagnant for 30 years and remains a faithful lackey of the US and will not change as long as the hard power of the US is unquestioned.

The world today sees the US killing Houthis, Iranians and Russians unpunished but no one is killing Americans.

If China wants to see its red lines respected, China will have to prepare to kill and punish militarily anyone who crosses them.

Nothing comes from nothing, so only fools can wait for global power to come from heaven without doing anything, just looking and waiting. China needs to build the strongest military force to be treated as the strongest country.

Well, let's not pretend the situation in ME is going anywhere near what US wants, or that even US is that stable at the home front either. Or even that US red lines have been respected by most entities in the last years.

Israelis and westerners are being killed by proxies, and China didn't have to pay much (if it isn't even a net economic gain) for it at all. We're not bombing the continental US right now, and maybe ultimately that's what they deserve for making territorial threats against us, but we are not slacking in straining them globally either, all while China remains well defended and peaceful, for the moment.

Getting in more money for the military, more troops etc will all be positive developments to keep peace in Asia.

The status quo should be upheld.

 

[supersnoop]

Actually, only 40% voted for the DPP. I don't know if Petrolicious88 is Taiwanese, but I am and I'm not surprised by the result of the election. As China becomes more prosperous relative to Taiwan, more and more people will become pro-China. I have family members and friends in Taiwan and the United States who used to be ardently pro-independence but now many of them are open to the possibility of closer ties with China. Why? Most of them say that they are impressed by the PRC's technological achievements and ironically, the younger ones say that they are increasingly interested in Chinese popular culture (Douyin, dramas, music, etc.) Basically, what I've seen with my own eyes is largely consistent with the results of yesterday's election (declining support for the DPP, especially among young people).

That said, this is a victory for the pro-US camp but statements like "Taiwan is already gone. There’s zero soft power to win back Taiwan" are inconsistent with reality, in my opinion.

I am not Taiwanese, but what I see from HK, a lot of pro-China people simply just move to mainland China. Logically, if the people believe the mainland is full of opportunities and you are in a position to take advantage, you’d go. Liang Ming Soong went and recruited many of his TSMC colleagues. SZ

There are tens of thousands of Taiwanese in SZ alone. I believe the formally known number in all of mainland China is something like at least 300,000, and I think a significant number in HK as well.

In any case, it is a number that the DPP believes is unfavourable.

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See my previous post, that it's normal for any leading party in the so-called democracies to always perform worse on the following elections.

People simply get bored and vote someone else because they can. That system is made to be very cyclical in nature.

I live beside the EU, and I understand this system very well. What occurred in these Taiwanese elections is very rare. They should've already been out if we follow the norms.

It's incredibly successful for a leading party to repeat 3 election cycles, and still hold 7% lead (as of my knowledge, even impossible).

In reality, DPP should've made a much worse result than this.

It shows that either people are very in line with their policies, or the US has a very strong grip on this country's political system, to be this firm.

Actually DPP lost the majority in the legislature so essentially you have a lame duck president.