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Temstar

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Strange times, the west has gone full crazy over Ukraine and Israel. China really seems like the grown adult in the room, heading BRI/SCO/BRICS

Indeed, see here:
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Apparently this guy's dad was a big arab spring leader in Saudi Arabia back then, he grew up in London as political refugee. Took him long enough but at last his eyes are open.

To quote a popular Zhang Weiwei meme:
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Bellum_Romanum

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Nokia is still struggling even after Huawei got sanctioned. That tells you how uncompetitive these companies are.
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Growth in the India marketis no anymore able to compensate fully for what we are losing in North America,” Lundmark said. “But what comes down, will go back up again and we do not know what the timing is. That’s why we are taking action.”

That up there is the reason why. They literally thought they could rely on the SUPER DUPER INDIAN SUPAPOWA MARKET to absorb their HUBRIS in attacking the actual GIANT MARKET THAT IS CHINA. Western logic has become demented that it has affected their common sense.
 

siegecrossbow

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Growth in the India marketis no anymore able to compensate fully for what we are losing in North America,” Lundmark said. “But what comes down, will go back up again and we do not know what the timing is. That’s why we are taking action.”

That up there is the reason why. They literally thought they could rely on the SUPER DUPER INDIAN SUPAPOWA MARKET to absorb their HUBRIS in attacking the actual GIANT MARKET THAT IS CHINA. Western logic has become demented that it has affected their common sense.

Keep bitching and the India government will give your something to really cry about, like a trillion dollar fine for tax evasion.
 

supersnoop

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Growth in the India marketis no anymore able to compensate fully for what we are losing in North America,” Lundmark said. “But what comes down, will go back up again and we do not know what the timing is. That’s why we are taking action.”

That up there is the reason why. They literally thought they could rely on the SUPER DUPER INDIAN SUPAPOWA MARKET to absorb their HUBRIS in attacking the actual GIANT MARKET THAT IS CHINA. Western logic has become demented that it has affected their common sense.

No, it is not really India that is the main issue
This is:
“Operators have found it challenging to monetize their 5G investments,” Chief Executive Officer Pekka Lundmark said in an interview after the earnings. “It will come, but it seems to be taking longer than originally thought.”

The reality is that 5G is not a good consumer selling point. It is not consistently significantly faster than 4G LTE. As a result, customers are not rushing to change phones for it. 4G is basically as fast as people need it unless they are downloading 4K HDR videos to their phone.

As I understand (in my limited technical capacity), a lot of the work for 5G was on enhancing latency and connection quality/consistency. This would enhance a lot of IoT, remote applications, or future V2X applications, but less important for an average consumer.

Of course, that is precisely why China chose to quickly implement 5G because it believes it can provide an industrial advantage.
 

KYli

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No, it is not really India that is the main issue
This is:


The reality is that 5G is not a good consumer selling point. It is not consistently significantly faster than 4G LTE. As a result, customers are not rushing to change phones for it. 4G is basically as fast as people need it unless they are downloading 4K HDR videos to their phone.

As I understand (in my limited technical capacity), a lot of the work for 5G was on enhancing latency and connection quality/consistency. This would enhance a lot of IoT, remote applications, or future V2X applications, but less important for an average consumer.

Of course, that is precisely why China chose to quickly implement 5G because it believes it can provide an industrial advantage.
The issue is more due to the fact that the Western countries auction airwaves to bring in tens of billions in revenue. Just for US, companies spent over 80 billions to airwaves licenses or spectrum. On the other hand, China considers 5G network as a common goods for the country and people that should be affordable and widely available.

As the cost of 5G is cheap in China, the adoption of 5G is faster and less costly. Companies were able to recoup their investment quickly even though they charged much less than most other countries. Consequently, Chinese telecom companies have moved on from 5G to adopt 5.5G which is ten times faster. At the end of the day, Huawei would be benefited also as its superior technology can rollout and bring the costs down faster than its competitors. In conclusion, Chinese government is thinking for long term and most other countries just look for short term gains.

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The US Federal Communications Commission on Friday (US time) announced the closing of the first phase of C-Band auction, that produced gross proceeds in excess of $80.9 billion, a record high. Bidders will also need pay $9.7 billion in incentive payments to accelerate the freeing up of spectrum in the key C-band by shifting existing satellite users. US-based Verizon and AT&T are expected to be the winners in the auction.

China has chosen to allocate spectrum according to the requirements and capabilities of telecom carriers instead of charging a great amount of spectrum occupation fee, which enables the operators to carry out large-scale network construction.

The government's requirement to accelerate network speed, lower fees and provide universal access to every village has promoted telecom operators to extend their networks to every corner of society, as consumers enjoy services at a lower cost.
 
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