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BoraTas

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China's SCS policies need a revision. They are inconsistent and arguably too timid. I was against violence but Filipino govt ships entering the lagoon would put China's credibility in question. I am 100% in support of the policy to sink the said ships. I think forcefully defending physically held features is a reasonable redline.

 

Africablack

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China's SCS policies need a revision. They are inconsistent and arguably too timid. I was against violence but Filipino govt ships entering the lagoon would put China's credibility in question. I am 100% in support of the policy to sink the said ships. I think forcefully defending physically held features is a reasonable redline.

You mean fall into the obvious ploy so the US and the west can say "Ah ha! I told you China was aggressive!!"

When they start firing then you fire back. Until then you just watch them make a complete fool of themselves.
 

horse

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I 100% agree and have even written about the possibility here. Lots of people said it's "low probability" yet here we are now.

I never made a comment on this, but I think I will now.

I do not agree with this "low probability," because it is "zero probability."

Posturing, is just like posturing.

What do Korea and Japan have to gain in a war with China. Will the Americans abandon them when the going gets tough just like the South Vietnamese.

This is not a serious question in my view.

This expression from people who date, like boy and girl going out on a date, kind of sums it up.

Flirting, is not a commitment.

Every girl knows that.

Guys being guys, well, you know how we are.

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BoraTas

Major
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You mean fall into the obvious ploy so the US and the west can say "Ah ha! I told you China was aggressive!!"

When they start firing then you fire back. Until then you just watch them make a complete fool of themselves.
Being aggressive > being a passive shopping mall. The former one has influence. The latter one can't even sell weapons because it is useless to politically align with it.
 

ansy1968

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China's SCS policies need a revision. They are inconsistent and arguably too timid. I was against violence but Filipino govt ships entering the lagoon would put China's credibility in question. I am 100% in support of the policy to sink the said ships. I think forcefully defending physically held features is a reasonable redline.

Sir a map of Scarborough shoal, there is only one entrance inside the shoal, the Chinese CCG always maintain a ship inside and one at the mouth of the lagoon. so there is no way for the Philippine CG to enter unless they blew up those ship and provoke a war. These noises are being raise to gather public support as constant use of China threat had lessen their value, it was always a recurring theme and we are sick of it.

And if you see the map, the entrance was dredge so that a ship can be moored inside, Its a rich fishing ground and Chinese CG are there to protect it from overfishing...lol

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KYli

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America spends trillions on global misinformation, information, and brainwashing. What China spends is peanut.
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France wants money from Nvidia.
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A pure projection from the US POV. Being a superpower and the world police is very costly.
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More like the Western propaganda is working on overtime to demonize China. And the oppositions would blame China for many things until they came to power and beg China to invest more.
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Bellum_Romanum

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Being aggressive > being a passive shopping mall. The former one has influence. The latter one can't even sell weapons because it is useless to politically align with it.
Try reading this "study" recently published and linked here by our forum member @Taiban which can be read here:

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The level of gaslighting and projection American intellectual class level against China is just beyond comical; it's quite tragic.
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Then read this recent OP-ED published in SCMP by Professor Majoney.
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It's clear that America is hellbent on trying to create provocative conditions as that's the current American strategy is to paint themselves and their allies as the "GOOD GUYS" and China as the "BAD GUY" because that's how quixotic and messianic those people/cultural affinity are. And if China were to take the bait of whipping the bejeesus out of the non-existent PH navy, then America would have managed to accomplishing their tasks in painting China as the cancer that must be stopped, if not destroyed.
 

supersnoop

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Lol shut the fuck up and shove your grade 10 civic class bullshit back up your own ass. The political system and media in Canada are some of the most racist ive ever seen.

Canada is if nothing else a "white is right" country. Freeland's grandfather's a Nazi and she actively denies it, while Han Dong who was cleared is still suspended from the caucus. These people actively bring Nazis to parliament and not check, why? because they are white and assumed to be okay. The white people here kidnapped native children and killed them by the hundreds at residential schools, and don't even have the decency to hand their bodies back, just buried them at school. The army's got so many neo-nazis they dont even bother to discharge them anymore, just ask them to wear long sleeve shirts over their swastikas and Rhodesian flag tattoos.

Hu AnMing was Canadian when the Americans persecuted him, yet not a peep from our white government. The two white spies freelancing for the American CIA get nabbed and the government goes blames a whole ethnicity.

if you honestly think whites and non-white are treated the same you are either a racists or very naïve and stupid.

A few points to consider
- I think there is a big difference between everyday life racism vs. whatever is practiced by the government.
Are people experiencing everyday life racism in Canada? I don't think so for the most part.

- Because there isn't that strong history of hard racism like in the Southern US, (White, but also other) Canadians do think that racism is not a big deal, which in turn lets off real racist BS like Meng Wenzhou arrest, "foreign buyers" taxes, "Chinese influence" etc.

The "Foreign Buyers" bogeyman was especially egregious. The government kept using this coded language, even when it was clear who they were targeting.

Now the Chinese investment and immigration has cooled, but prices are still up, guess it was not Chinese people's fault? Maybe it's Trudeau letting in millions of people and not giving cities any money to develop infrastructure or ways to effectively diversify urban settlement?

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Out of ~ a million people immigrating last year, over a quarter were from India, making the biggest single chunk of the pie. The next was China at only 7%, and it was not a whole lot more people than that hugely populated country of Afghanistan (31,000 vs. 25,000).
 
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