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KYli

Brigadier
Very interesting.

I got no idea what is going on. Gonna talk outta mah arse now.

  • KMT seemed to have collapsed into a also-ran status

  • Taiwan identity has strengthen

  • but a strong Taiwan identity is not automatic wish for Tai Du.

  • identity politics maybe inherently unreliable

  • the point of identity politics is identity, and not anything else

  • identity politics can keep the separatist in power

  • Tai Du in power is not something new

Guess we are still left with the status quo.

But the status quo and military balance might not really exist anymore after that Pelosi visit.

Last two thoughts, how that war turns out in Europe is vitally important, how China and Philippines tussle over their claims is kind of important.

We know, people are watching that intently.

:confused:
Majority of Taiwanese seeks and wants independent since 15 to 20 years ago. It doesn't matter if these politicians are KMT or DPP or independents. It is just some faction of CPC is still refusing to acknowledge such simple truth and wanting to court, appease, incentivize Taiwanese to accept peaceful reunification.

However, as much as Taiwanese wants independents. Majority of Taiwanese doesn't want to fight and defend its independent and is willing to accept CPC's rules and surrender if China attacked. Polls after polls are shown there is no willingness to fight.
 

horse

Colonel
Registered Member
Majority of Taiwanese seeks and wants independent since 15 to 20 years ago. It doesn't matter if these politicians are KMT or DPP or independents. It is just some faction of CPC is still refusing to acknowledge such simple truth and wanting to court, appease, incentivize Taiwanese to accept peaceful reunification.

However, as much as Taiwanese wants independents. Majority of Taiwanese doesn't want to fight and defend its independent and is willing to accept CPC's rules and surrender if China attacked. Polls after polls are shown there is no willingness to fight.

That is not logical my friend.

If you want to get married, you get married.

If you say you want to get married, and do not get married, then that is your wish.

China wants reunification.
 

Bellum_Romanum

Brigadier
Registered Member
China does not allow the Chinese to travel = SeeSeePee bad.
China now allows the Chinese to travelling = SeeSeePee also bad.

Can confirm the West is suffering from damn some serious China-induced bipolar disorder.

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How could China leads Asia in aviation boom in Asia when the Chinese economy has collapse, is on the verge of collapsing, has already collapse? Perhaps these millions of Chinese that are flying in and out of China are economic refugees from the economic incompetence of the see see Pee? Hmm...
 

Michaelsinodef

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Majority of Taiwanese seeks and wants independent since 15 to 20 years ago. It doesn't matter if these politicians are KMT or DPP or independents. It is just some faction of CPC is still refusing to acknowledge such simple truth and wanting to court, appease, incentivize Taiwanese to accept peaceful reunification.

However, as much as Taiwanese wants independents. Majority of Taiwanese doesn't want to fight and defend its independent and is willing to accept CPC's rules and surrender if China attacked. Polls after polls are shown there is no willingness to fight.
A majority of the people on Taiwan wouldn't mind independence just like how I wouldn't mind suddenly, out of nowhere, getting a 10k $ paycheck stuffed into my hands.

But just like I clearly know, that there's no way 10k paycheck would suddenly get given to me for nothing, likewise, the majority on Taiwan knows indepence doesn't just 'happen' or would 'happen easily' with no pushback or move from China.

Because of that, the majority is actually pretty fearful, and chooses to 'just' be undecided, or well, prefer current status quo.
 

horse

Colonel
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A majority of the people on Taiwan wouldn't mind independence just like how I wouldn't mind suddenly, out of nowhere, getting a 10k $ paycheck stuffed into my hands.

But just like I clearly know, that there's no way 10k paycheck would suddenly get given to me for nothing, likewise, the majority on Taiwan knows indepence doesn't just 'happen' or would 'happen easily' with no pushback or move from China.

Because of that, the majority is actually pretty fearful, and chooses to 'just' be undecided, or well, prefer current status quo.

It is what woman always talk about in relationships.

Where is the commitment?

The only commitment to Tai Du is in the same minority of radicals on the island, and in Washington DC. Japan too, but they don't matter.


This game has reached the point where the PRC will now actively try to cut off the oxygen to Tai Du, via economic means and further military posturing around the island (made possible from the Pelosi visit).

While at the same time, still holding out for better co-operation between the straits.

:)

One lesson from the Cold War, the biggest mistake the American had made, was they assumed the communist world was monolithic. It was not.

Same case here.

Taiwan is not monolithic.

It is in a way, but still isn't.

The Taiwan identity could be monolithic to a point. The majority of Taiwanese are committed to a Taiwan identity.

However, that does not mean the population of Taiwan is committed to Tai Du.

That was the play of the separatist, that the commitment to Taiwan identity would lead naturally to the commitment for Taiwan independence. IMO, this was a long term play lasting decades.

Has this worked?

I would say no.

But there was no Plan B.

Therefore, expect nothing but reruns from the Taiwan island reality show for the next few years.

:D
 

jwnz

Junior Member
Registered Member
China does not allow the Chinese to travel = SeeSeePee bad.
China now allows the Chinese to travelling = SeeSeePee also bad.

Can confirm the West is suffering from damn some serious China-induced bipolar disorder.

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Wait a minute, is the Chinese economy not imploding and collapsing anymore, where do the Chinese find money to travel?
 

getready

Senior Member
While it boils down to it the tw issue always been an issue between China and US since US navy sailed down the tw straits during Mao era, just before Korean war erupted, in a show of force and deterrence.


If US goes out the picture, taiwan secessionist forces will collapse. Who else will give them meaningful support? Japan lol? Without the US superpower support and egging behind the scenes, Taiwanese are crazy to still pursue independence. The number of them who would still want to sacrifice their lives and their family lives and their livelihood for independence and thus war, will definitely be in absolute minority. That's why poll after poll you see the number of people who want independence to be around 15%, reunification around 5%, the majority rest want status quo, with some still undecided.

Without US backing, the pro independence group will shrink fast. Solve the US issue, china can solve the tw issue much much easier. CPC is patient, it can wait even for some of the pro independence to change their minds. Maybe not the hardcore ones but they will be useless. Without hard power, they can be sidelined quick.

Short of official declaration of independence, CPC have said anything is up for negotiations and discussion.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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E.U. countries like Romania are all talk no action. Full of empty promises and holier than thou attitudes against China's supposed environmental irresponsibility and yet could not even sort their "waste" in accordance to their own rules. Pfft... Yet, these sods want to lecture countries in the global south, pathetic. Fix your own house first.

 
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