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KYli

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james smith esq said:
Liberia has little to do with the overall history of Blacks in the U. S. It was an externally imposed solution to the “race issue” and focused, primarily on free-born Blacks, within the context of the period of African enslavement. Liberia was not the idea of Blacks in the U. S., it was a white-supremacist imposed experiment!

The issue is that, by a process of cultural genocide (ethnicide), physical deprivation, infiltration, mis-education, and a sustained campaign of racist violence, that included rape, American policy and practice created a population of people that could not collectively conceptualize any option but to identify with its oppressor. The Civil Rights Movement was not a rational choice of an empowered rational actor with agency, it was a capitulation to naked-power. Had Blacks in the U. S. recognized the power that they did have, at that time, instead of following the delusions of a Christian Charlatan, they’d have sought to consolidate the power that did exist in their externally enforced segration, just as the European Jews did in their ghettos! Instead, they sought power in Jesus, i. e., superstition!

The weakness in this choice is, now, made obvious by the extreme maladaptive, anti-social, and criminal nature of behaviors exhibited by far too many Blacks in American society and the violent/death-cult nature of Black America’s most popular art-form!
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I don't think we disagree with the reasons why African Americans have become what they are now. However, we seem to disagree with the facts that African Americans' integration has been that successful or not. It is true that African Americans have been forced to adopt main stream cultural, religion and language. And many African Americans aspired to be accepted and included.

However, I think the harmony now is more or less due to the America is still the most powerful empire. It is like when Han and Tang were at the peak of their strengthen, they too had accepted many minorities and many people at the time thought the integration was successful.

The downfall of the Jin dynasty which is the successor of Han and Tang was brutal. The minorities that once part of the empire revolted and brutally killed Hans and subjugated Hans to their rules or attempted to establish their own empire with their own ethnics. The question is if the American is weakened in the future, would people fighting in the racial line or ideological line. That is the ultimate test if the integration is truly successful with forced assimilation with just cultural, religion and language but without interracial marriages.
 
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james smith esq said:
Actually, Spain’s objectives in South America were more Colonialist than Imperialist; the Crown just wanted that Gold and silver! It was the Catholic Church, more than the Spanish Crown, that sought empire in South America, and, boy, how did they succeed!
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Yeah! Religion and the sword, what a perfect combination. Imagine the Spanish conquest of the Philippine needed just 2,000 soldiers and 400 monks to accomplished, okay not the whole of the country because the south or Mindanao is Muslim and are able to resist.

Today's equivalent of Collective West subjugation is the same with an addition of "Democracy"...lol
 
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China ‘backs further Ukraine peace talks’ after Saudi Arabia summit​

Senior officials from about 40 countries met in Jeddah in attempt to draft key principles on ending war

China is said to be in support of a third round of talks to find a framework for peace in Ukraine after a meeting of senior officials from about 40 countries in
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over the weekend.

The two-day summit in Jeddah was the second of its kind, after a similar forum in Copenhagen earlier this summer, and aims to draft key principles on how to end Russia’s war in
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Ukraine’s president,
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, said he hoped the initiative would lead to a “peace summit” of world leaders this autumn to endorse the principles, based on his own 10-point formula for a settlement.

The talks, which excluded
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, were attended by the US, India, the EU and China’s special envoy for Eurasian affairs, Li Hui.

“We have many disagreements and we have heard different positions, but it is important that our principles are shared,” Li was reported by Reuters as saying before the meeting.
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Only one of these three countries is actually involved in the war in Ukraine. I guess this is part of the duties of being a superpower.

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KYli said:
I don't think we disagree with the reasons why African Americans have become what they are now. However, we seem to disagree with the facts that African Americans' integration has been that successful or not. It is true that African Americans have been forced to adopt main stream cultural, religion and language. And many African Americans aspired to be accepted and included.

However, I think the harmony now is more or less due to the America is still the most powerful empire. It is like when Han and Tang were at the peak of their strengthen, they too had accepted many minorities and many people at the time thought the integration was successful.

The downfall of the Jin dynasty which is the successor of Han and Tang was brutal. The minorities that once part of the empire revolted and brutally killed Hans and subjugated Hans to their rules or attempted to establish their own empire with their own ethnics. The question is if the American is weakened in the future, would people fighting in the racial line or ideological line. That is the ultimate test if the integration is truly successful with forced assimilation with just cultural, religion and language but without interracial marriages.
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I don’t believe that the integration has been successful, at all; I believe that it’s still a form of coercive oppression.

In the coming social-breakdown in the U. S., Blacks, as a cohesive group, or polity, will be a non-factor. They will, probably, be victims of organized, political, racist violence (and, in fact, may become a racial sacrificial-lamb), but they will have neither racial or ideological motivations towards action; they will, merely, struggle for survival, while praying to Jesus, just as they’re doing, now. In fact, I would expect Black folks’ most violent conflicts to be intra-communally, just as they are, now.

Those fighting along racial and ideological lines will be the religio/ethno-nationalists, and their war will be against the ~32% of whites that aren’t in, and can’t be coerced into, their camp, and whichever minorities get in their way. It will be a Christian Crusade of Caucasianity; the CCC, instead of the KKK!

However, I would not be surprised if the increasing Hispanic, and particularly, the Mexican population, would form their own ethno-nationalist coalition in order to carve-out portions of California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas as the basis for their own “state”.
 
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China ‘backs further Ukraine peace talks’ after Saudi Arabia summit​

Senior officials from about 40 countries met in Jeddah in attempt to draft key principles on ending war



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Only one of these three countries is actually involved in the war in Ukraine. I guess this is part of the duties of being a superpower.

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whoever sponsored these talks must be out of their mind to exclude Russia, as there can be no peace deal without Russia agreeing to it.
 
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