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[james smith esq]

If that were the case, then why there was civil rights movement. Why blacks felt and still feel that they were and still are oppressed. Integration through religion, culture and language were only successful to some extent to make Blacks feel they are a part of America but didn't change the fact that Whites and blacks don't view each other as equal and the same?

Remember that the White supremacists and tea party movement rise due the Obama's presidency. You think this is coincidence. Hollywood tries so hard to depict Whites are blacks and blacks are Whites but looking at the resentment towards Little Mermaid and other movies that tried so hard to muddle the difference. Racist tension and grievances and the feeling of oppression are still there just hiding and waiting for the time to strike or exploit by politicians.

The demand of civil rights movement were to be included more into the “American” society and body politic, not to establish or maintain a separate identity. It was, and is, the minority of U. S. Afros that strove for independence as opposed to freedom, i. e., more stuff. I don’t, never have, and objectively, can’t, ignore that white-supremacist racism is the root ideology and core belief of AmeriKKKA. My point is that most Black Americans do, have, and can! They simply want to be accepted as Americans despite the fact that it’s, objectively, impossible! This is the abject epitome of what I call the ‘imperialized mind’ (what some call the “colonized mind); I want to be, and be loved, by that which hates me!

 

[james smith esq]

African Americans are a great example of cultural genocide actually. Literally none of them who’ve been here as slaves still know their original language or culture. They’re Americans by necessity because they don’t know how to be African any more.

Actually, some of us have sustained quite a few ancestral-African cultural retentions. Here, in New Orleans, and the Gullah folks in South Carolina!

 

[james smith esq]

Wouldn't nationalism be more accurate than imperialism? When has a subjugated nation ever grown to be a major imperialist power?

We’d have to go back to the Classical and Ancient periods, I believe.

 

[FriedRiceNSpice]

We’d have to go back to the Classical and Ancient periods, I believe.

Most recent example I can think of is post-Mongol Russia.

 

[james smith esq]

Even the Spanish conquistadors could not 100% subjugate the Aztec, Maya and Inca, despite mass disease and violence, and suffered centuries of revolts. So even western imperialism in the Americas, of medieval tech vs. stone age tech, couldn't succeed when relying on pure violence alone.

Nahuatl and Maya are still used in Mexico, and was historically an official language of Spanish Mexico. In fact, it wasn't only Native Americans learning Spanish, the Spanish had to learn Nahuatl and the conquistadors even imposed Nahuatl and Spanish concurrently on conquered tribes that weren't Aztecs.

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Quechua is still an official language of Peru and was an official language of Spanish Peru. And the Spanish still learned it and imposed it on other tribes, alongside Spanish itself, as an official 'native' language.

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Even in the case of 90% casualties, extreme brutality from Spain and total technological overmatch, conquered Native Americans were still able to survive and keep some of their culture in Latin America.

Actually, Spain’s objectives in South America were more Colonialist than Imperialist; the Crown just wanted that Gold and silver! It was the Catholic Church, more than the Spanish Crown, that sought empire in South America, and, boy, how did they succeed!

 

[james smith esq]

Most recent example I can think of is post-Mongol Russia.

Yeah, off the top of my head, I can’t think of any post-Westphalian occurrences.

 

[KYli]

The demand of civil rights movement were to be included more into the “American” society and body politic, not to establish or maintain a separate identity. It was, and is, the minority of U. S. Afros that strove for independence as opposed to freedom, i. e., more stuff. I don’t, never have, and objectively, can’t, ignore that white-supremacist racism is the root ideology and core belief of AmeriKKKA. My point is that most Black Americans do, have, and can! They simply want to be accepted as Americans despite the fact that it’s, objectively, impossible! This is the abject epitome of what I call the ‘imperialized mind’ (what some call the “colonized mind)!

If that were the case, then why Liberia declared independent. If given a choice, African Americans decided to declare independent instead of being part of the American empire during 1800s.

Many African Americans wanted to be accepted. However, revolution of independent was never about majority but a crucial minority group wanted and persistently seek independent. The question if such crucial black minority was able to establish a Black Nation would many African Americans joined such nation. I think the answer is obvious. It is only after the fail attempt of the more radical Black groups that African Americans finally rally behind the second best option that is to be accepted as equal which born the Civil Rights movement.

 

[Canton_pop]

This isn't going to have the effect they think it will have.

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Hard truth for all Asians from Wang Yi: “No matter how blonde you dye your hair, how sharp you shape your nose, you can never become a European or American, you can never become a Westerner,” Wang said. “We must know where our roots lie.”

 

[james smith esq]

If that were the case, then why Liberia declared independent. If given a choice, African Americans decided to declare independent instead of being part of the American empire during 1800s.

Many African Americans wanted to be accepted. However, revolution of independent was never about majority but a crucial minority group wanted and persistently seek independent. The question if such crucial black minority was able to establish a Black Nation would many African Americans joined such nation. I think the answer is obvious. It is only after the fail attempt of the more radical Black groups that African Americans finally rally behind the second best option that is to be accepted as equal which born the Civil Rights movement.

Liberia has little to do with the overall history of Blacks in the U. S. It was an externally imposed solution to the “race issue” and focused, primarily on free-born Blacks, within the context of the period of African enslavement. Liberia was not the idea of Blacks in the U. S., it was a white-supremacist imposed experiment!

The issue is that, by a process of cultural genocide (ethnicide), physical deprivation, infiltration, mis-education, and a sustained campaign of racist violence, that included rape, American policy and practice created a population of people that could not collectively conceptualize any option but to identify with its oppressor. The Civil Rights Movement was not a rational choice of an empowered rational actor with agency, it was a capitulation to naked-power. Had Blacks in the U. S. recognized the power that they did have, at that time, instead of following the delusions of a Christian Charlatan, they’d have sought to consolidate the power that did exist in their externally enforced segration, just as the European Jews did in their ghettos! Instead, they sought power in Jesus, i. e., superstition!

The weakness in this choice is, now, made obvious by the extreme maladaptive, anti-social, and criminal nature of behaviors exhibited by far too many Blacks in American society and the violent/death-cult nature of Black America’s most popular art-form!

 

[james smith esq]

Hard truth for all Asians from Wang Yi: “No matter how blonde you dye your hair, how sharp you shape your nose, you can never become a European or American, you can never become a Westerner,” Wang said. “We must know where our roots lie.”

As I said, above:
This is the abject epitome of what I call the ‘imperialized mind’ (what some call the “colonized mind); I want to be, and be loved, by that which hates me!
I’ll amend this to state : This is the abject epitome of what I call the ‘imperialized mind’ (what some call the “colonized mind); I want to be (internalize), and be loved, by that which rejects, de-humanizes and objectifies me!