Z-20 (all variants) thread

[Figaro]

And applying your logic, where in the Globaltimes article that you linked can I find the photographs by which you have "definitively identified the Z-20's engines by outward appearance"?

Anyway, let's try this again. Read the following paragraph carefully, then answer the question after the paragraph:


Question: what engine does J-20A use?

Well we wouldn't need picture confirmation now would we since we have the Global Times article? Any how, why don't you answer the question I posed in my previous response (which happens to use your very same logic)? I have answered your question and now it is time for you to answer mine.

Question : In the final design of the J-20, it is supposed to be powered by the WS-15. Does it mean that current J-20s should be powered by the WS-15 because they are production types? How do we know definitively that the Z-20 in its current form is its final design?

 

[by78]

Well we wouldn't need picture confirmation now would we since we have the Global Times article? Any how, why don't you answer the question I posed in my previous response (which happens to use your very same logic)?

Question : In the final design of the J-20, it is supposed to be powered by the WS-15. Does it mean that current J-20s should be powered by the WS-15 because they are production types?

The current J-20As are powered by an improved variant of the domestic WS-10 turbofan.

Back to my question. Read the following paragraph carefully, then answer the question after the paragraph:

The exact type of engine used on the first prototype J-20 (#2001) is unclear (Russian AL-31?). The J-20 #2001 prototype made its first flight at the Chengdu airfield on 11 January, 2011. J-20 has entered service with PLAAF in 2016, a time frame much faster than the one (>2020) anticipated by western military analysts. The latest image (October 2019) suggests that J-20A powered by the indigenous WS-10C turbofan with a serrated (sawtooth) nozzle design is in production. It was rumored that the indigenous WS-15 turbofan engine has been selected for J-20.

Question: what engine does J-20A use?

 

[Figaro]

The current J-20As are powered by an improved variant of the domestic WS-10 turbofan.

Back to my question. Read the following paragraph carefully, then answer the question after the paragraph:


Question: what engine does J-20A use?

Whoa whoa whoa but shouldn't it be powered by the WS-15 because it should be finalized after all since it is a production model right? This the exact same logic you applied earlier with the Z-20. Anyways didn't you just answer your own question ?

Huitong was talking about the "final design" of the Z-20, not its first prototype. In this final design, Z-20 is powered by domestic WZ-10 turboshafts. What is unclear about that?

 

[by78]

Whoa whoa whoa but shouldn't it be powered by the WS-15 because it should be finalized after all since it is a production model right? This the exact same logic you applied earlier with the Z-20. Anyways didn't you just answer your own question ?

The final unnamed J-20 variant will be powered by WS-15, if it goes well. The current J-20A is confirmed to have a WS-10 variant, while the WS-15 is being developed.

Shall we try this again?

The exact type of engine used on the first prototype J-20 (#2001) is unclear (Russian AL-31?). The J-20 #2001 prototype made its first flight at the Chengdu airfield on 11 January, 2011. J-20 has entered service with PLAAF in 2016, a time frame much faster than the one (>2020) anticipated by western military analysts. The latest image (October 2019) suggests that J-20A powered by the indigenous WS-10C turbofan with a serrated (sawtooth) nozzle design is in production. It was rumored that the indigenous WS-15 turbofan engine has been selected for J-20.

Question: what engine does J-20A use?

 

[Figaro]

The final unnamed J-20 variant will be powered by WS-15, if it goes well. The current J-20A is confirmed to have a WS-10 variant, while the WS-15 is being developed.

Shall we try this again?


Question: what engine does J-20A use?

Lol why are you ignoring my previous quote. It's really a charm SDF does not allow you to delete messages, unlike a certain "fanboy" forum you always snide about. Anyways please clarify this statement below. Did Huitong say that the current Z-20s in production are of "final design"? Regarding your question, you already answered it yourself.

Huitong was talking about the "final design" of the Z-20, not its first prototype. In this final design, Z-20 is powered by domestic WZ-10 turboshafts. What is unclear about that?

 

[by78]

Whoa whoa whoa but shouldn't it be powered by the WS-15 because it should be finalized after all since it is a production model right? This the exact same logic you applied earlier with the Z-20. Anyways didn't you just answer your own question ?

Let me simplify this further, since you don't appear to understand analogies.

Read the following paragraph carefully and answer the question after the paragraph.

The project (now designated as

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) finally gained full speed after Z-10 was put into production in 2010. The finalized design of Z-20 called for the domestic WZ-10 turboshaft engines to be installed. The first prototype was rumored to have rolled off the assembly line in December 2012. Because the intended WZ-10 engine was still in development and not yet ready, the first prototype was equipped with a foreign engine the type of which remains unclear (Russian TV3-117VM?). Z-20 has entered active-service with PLA Army in 2019 and is powered by two

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turboshaft engines (~1,600kW). It is rumored that the indigenous WZ-11 turboshaft engine (1,500kW) has been selected as an additional engine option, but this has not been confirmed.

Question: what engine does the current active-service Z-20 have?

P.S. Have you taken either the ACT or the SAT? If so, may I ask what year and your score?

 

[Deino]

Guys ... give it a rest!

 

[yuxiaochen]

Guys.... STFU....

 

[yuxiaochen]

I just noticed something, the z-20 model in your post is a different model to the z-20 model in my post.

And yet another image of that Z-20 mock up on deck of the Type 055 DDG. (Image via @利刃斩海飞剪艏 from Weibo)

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[by78]

I just noticed something, the z-20 model in your post is a different model to the z-20 model in my post.

From Huitong. The Z-20 mockup for 055 is different from that of 075. 055's mockup represents Z-20F; 075's represents Z-20J.