Yemen Crisis/Conflict & the "Decisive Storm" Coalition

Jeff Head

Jeff Head

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Othr than the night-time vide of something being hit at sea, and this still of the bridge of a vessel on fire:

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I have not see any image of rescure efforts, of a damaged ship, or of anything else.

I would expect that if HSV-2 were sunk in this manner, it would be big news on the major networks, like CNN< BBC, CBS, etc.

All I have seen are the video on youtuibe, the stills, and reports from fairly innocuous reports.

THis is not a small ship. If it was sunk, I expect we will hear some official reports to that effect soon, particularly since its mission was purley humanitarian as I understand it.
 
plawolf

plawolf

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Well, it certainly looks like they hit something, and something big.

I actually feel that the longer the media blackout continues, the more likely that something was military.

If that had been a civilian ship hit, there would be no reason why the Saudis and their allies wouldn't be shouting it from the rooftops to highlight now 'evil' their enemy is.

You only hide something if there is something worth hiding, the pre-requisit is having the ability to suppress the news in the first place.

Only Saudi and their rich Gulf allies have the money and connections to affect a media blackout, so the very fact we are not seeing this splashed all across the major western networks would be a good indication the Saudis and their allies are suppressing the story, and they will only need to do that, if, as I said earlier, there is something worth covering up in the first place.
 
Jeff Head

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Gloire_bb said:
Nighttime supply runs are hardly humanitarian.
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Depends on what they are running and why.

If you are an injured civilian in a makeshift hospital waiting for medication, food, or other such things, I promise you that you would considered them 100% humanitarian.
 
Jura The idiot

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Yesterday at 8:28 PM
Jura said:
it'll be interesting to watch what happens next (soon I mean):
  1. escorting vessels in the area (now I briefly checked and the UAE Navy has nine Corvettes, and the Saudi Navy seven Frigates, with a hangar);
  2. no escorting, Partizans hit another vessel;
  3. none of the above :)
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now it seems #1 was close (OK I didn't guess :) as US dispatches warships after UAE vessel is hit by missiles off Yemen’s coast
The U.S. Navy has sent three warships off the coast of Yemen after a UAE Navy-operated vessel was hit by missiles fired by Yemen’s Houthi fighters in the Bab al-Mandab strait on Saturday.

According to a report by Fox News, guided-missile destroyers USS Mason and USS Nitze were dispatched together with the forward-deployed Austin-class amphibious transport dock USS Ponce.

Iran-backed Houthi fighters in Yemen assumed responsibility for an
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HSV 2, a vessel formerly operated by the U.S. Navy.

A video which purportedly showed the attack started circulating on the internet shortly thereafter.

Initial reports said the missile used was a Chinese C-802 anti-ship missile. Other reports indicate that multiple anti-tank missiles might have been used in the incident.

U.S. Navy officials said the Houthis were supplied with shoulder-fired rockets that nearly destroyed the UAE Navy ship, according to the Fox News report.

The UAE military on Saturday confirmed that one of its vessels was involved in an ‘incident’ and added that none of the crew had been hurt while omitting information on whether the vessel sank or not.

However, there are now claims that dozens of people on board were killed, including members of the Emirati royal family. Any of the reports are still to be confirmed.

According to Press TV, the Yemeni Navy warned Saudi Arabia and all members of the Arab military coalition not to deploy ships to Yemeni territorial waters as they would be targeted by missile fire.

The attacked HSW 2 Swift was built by Australian shipbuilder Incat Crowther and leased to the U.S Navy. It was operated by Military Sealift Command from 2003 to 2013 and later transferred to UAE.
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Jeff Head

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Jura said:
Yesterday at 8:28 PM

now it seems #1 was close (OK I didn't guess :) as US dispatches warships after UAE vessel is hit by missiles off Yemen’s coast
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Thanks for that find.

I'll call it a hit...but it seems like it probably was not sunk.

If members of the Royal Family were killed, you can bet it will only increase the fighting at least for the time being, and now the US is sending in a couple of AEGIS DDGs to help protect.

What happened to the Saudi protection?

As to multiple anti-tank missiles...there were several explosions in the film...but I would call those secondary from the main hit.

Remember, these are all aluminum vessels and any strong missile hit is going to be potentially catastrophic.

Just the same, the C-802 is much longer ranged and a larger warhead. Was the vessel sitting right near shore, within range of anti-tank missiles.

I lean towards the C-802 from what we see in the video.
 
Jura The idiot

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Jeff Head said:
Thanks for that find.

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as to the UAE involvement in "Decisive Storm" (what an ironic name!), I can repeat this:
Jun 18, 2016
Jura said:
interesting development: "he": according to
War Rages in Yemen, Despite UAE Ceasing Active Military Ops
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as for the naval affairs, I can offer this:
Yesterday at 10:30 AM
Jura said:
I think those (now I'll use WWTwo German designation) Banditen just hit anything they're able to hit, so I would've thought all vessels should've been convoyed in the area where Banditen might operate (I don't know if it's feasible, am just armchair-admiralling :)
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and all I can add now is:
Jeff Head said:
Remember, these are all aluminum vessels and any strong missile hit is going to be potentially catastrophic. ...
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... that's pretty much I happened to read, minutes before your post, from Russians:
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, formerly of the Pentagon, writes another article about the Yemen war:
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I quote:
When asked why they voted
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blocking the deal, some senators remarked that the Strait of Hormuz would be threatened if Houthi rebels take over all of Yemen.
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But the shipping bottleneck actually separates Iran and an Omani peninsula, not Yemen, which is hundreds of miles south of Oman and borders the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden.

The misidentification came from Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker, R-Tenn., and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who brought up the strait as an issue of concern should Iran-friendly Houthis take over Yemen.

Senator McCain asked Senator Corker if that would “Indeed pose a threat to the Straits [sic] of Hormuz, where they are already harassing American naval vessels?” to which Corker responded: “It creates greater instability in a region that already has had tremendous amounts of it. But no question, I mean, it borders the strait and again it puts more of that in Iranian hands.”
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Something to copy to the What The Heck? Tread. :eek:
 
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