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jackliu

Banned Idiot
I put that down to the inability to escape from their capatalist running dog mentality. Or is my viewpoint baseless? whoops thats another CCP favourite.;)

Oh don't worry, you are "free". Your opinion are totally independent of your critical thinking, it has nothing to do with the influence of the "free" media.

This is of course a very political matter.
It is the duty of the legitimate authority in a state to suppress violence against it. 1861-1865 was an extreme example.
By sponsoring the insurgency Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, the US and other Western countries are in clear violation of the Charter of the United Nations. They are now responsible for the deaths of some twenty thousand people.
Let's hope that the Syrian government will be successful in defeating this insurrection otherwise the rogue states will continue to run amok, as they did in Yugoslavia, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya.

It is kinda funny, US blaming Syria for violence, while at the time time, they are the ones that supporting the rebel by giving them arms and diplomatic support for this fight to happen in the 1st place, and inevitably during the process innocent bystander gets hurt, and this gives them the evidence to call for regime change...

Well I guess at least this is better than direct invasion of Iraq style.
 
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bd popeye

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At least seven people were killed, including the suspected gunman, in a mass shooting at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wis., south of Milwaukee on Sunday.

According to police, 911 dispatchers received multiple calls from the temple at approximately 10:25 a.m. local time. An officer who responded to the scene was treating a victim when he was "ambushed" by the suspected gunman in the parking lot, Oak Creek Police Chief John Edwards said. The veteran officer was shot multiple times and rushed to Milwaukee's Froedtert Hospital where he underwent surgery, Edwards said.

The suspect was shot and killed by a second officer, police said. The gunman was not identified, and no motive was released.

Tactical units conducting a sweep of the 17,000-square-foot temple discovered four bodies inside and three—including the gunman—in the parking lot. Edwards said "weapons" were recovered, but would not elaborate. According to CNN, two semi-automatic handguns were recovered at the scene, and member of the temple described the gunman as tall male with what appeared to be a "9/11 tattoo."

There were initial, unconfirmed reports of multiple shooters and a hostage situation, though police said they believe there was just one gunman.

A spokesman for Froedtert Hospital said a total of three victims, including the officer, were admitted—two with gunshot wounds to the face and one with gunshot wounds to the abdomen. All three are in critical condition, the spokesman said. Other area hospitals were initially told to prepare for as many as 20 victims, though it appears that figure was precautionary.

[Slideshow: Sikh temple shooting: Images from the scene]

Law enforcement officials are treating the case as an "act of domestic terrorism," police said, and the FBI is leading the investigation. The names of the victims in Sunday's shooting were not released.

According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Satwant Kaleka, the president of the temple, was one of the victims taken to Froedtert Hospital, according to his nephew, Gurmit Kaleka.

Dozens of worshipers, including women and children, were gathering for a meal before an 11:30 a.m. prayer service at the temple, or gurdwara, when the shooting occurred. There are about 500 members in the congregation, officials said.

A man wipes away tears outside the Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wis., Aug. 5, 2012. (Jeffrey Phelps/AP)

Witnesses described a chaotic scene as worshipers reportedly hid inside closets within the building after the gunman opened fire inside.

President Barack Obama was notified of the shooting shortly before 1 p.m. (ET) by chief counterterrorism adviser John Brennan, a senior administration official told Yahoo News.

"Michelle and I were deeply saddened to learn of the shooting that tragically took so many lives in Wisconsin," Obama said. "At this difficult time, the people of Oak Creek must know that the American people have them in our thoughts and prayers, and our hearts go out to the families and friends of those who were killed and wounded. My administration will provide whatever support is necessary to the officials who are responding to this tragic shooting and moving forward with an investigation. As we mourn this loss which took place at a house of worship, we are reminded how much our country has been enriched by Sikhs, who are a part of our broader American family."

Mitt Romney released a statement, too. "This was a senseless act of violence and a tragedy that should never befall any house of worship," Romney said. "Our hearts are with the victims, their families, and the entire Oak Creek Sikh community. We join Americans everywhere in mourning those who lost their lives and in prayer for healing in the difficult days ahead."

Wis. Gov. Scott Walker said his office is working with the FBI and local law enforcement in its investigation.

"Our hearts go out to the victims and their families as we all struggle to comprehend the evil that begets this terrible violence," Walker said. "At the same time, we are filled with gratitude for our first responders, who show bravery and selflessness as they put aside their own safety to protect our neighbors and friends."

The Indian Embassy in Washington called it a "tragic incident" and said it has been in touch with the National Security Council and local authorities to monitor the situation.

Sunday's shooting comes less than a month after the Aurora, Colo., theater massacre, when 12 people were killed and 58 wounded during a midnight screening of "Dark Knight Rises."

Sikhism is a 500-year-old monotheist faith with about 27 million followers worldwide, including about 300,000 in the United States.

Since 9/11, Sikh groups in the United States have reported a rise in bias attacks. There have been more than 700 reports of hate-related incidents against Sikhs since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, according to the Associated Press. "Sikhs don't practice the same religion as Muslims," the AP noted, "but their long beards and turbans often cause them to be mistaken for Muslims, advocates say."

In the wake of the shooting in Wisconsin, law enforcement officials in other cities, including New York City, increased patrols near Sikh temples on Sunday. However, there is no known threat against Sikh temples in New York, the NYPD said.
 

Equation

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There are too many murder incidents like these lately, and I don't want to get use to it. From what I read the POS perpetrator was some ultra right wing (different from conservatives) idiot.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
These shootings recently are going to put a lot of pressure on gun control.

But pressure never translates into action.

Americans have an irrational affection for firearms. There is no other way to describe it or explain it, and unfortunately, no amount of tragedy will ever likely to change that.

I remember reading years ago that perversely, gun sales spike after tragedies like these as more people get scared into wanting guns for self defense against the kind of psychos who do such things.

As such, if anything, mass shootings is likely to lead to looser gun control as more and more rich and politicly important voters would want guns, and conceal permits to carry their guns in public, and politicians would fight each other to given them more guns in exchange for their votes. And woe be-told anyone who dares to try to take away your average joe-six-pack's guns. You would sooner have a revolution or American civil war before Americans disarm, and any attempt to forcibly disarm America may well lead to revolution or civil war.
 

no_name

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I remember reading years ago that perversely, gun sales spike after tragedies like these as more people get scared into wanting guns for self defense against the kind of psychos who do such things.


Though I'm not too sure how many people brings their guns along with them to the cinema to watch a movie, to a shopping centre or a religious place the pray.

Most likely the guns they keep to protect themselves would be out of access when such incidents struck.
 

jackliu

Banned Idiot
But pressure never translates into action.

Americans have an irrational affection for firearms. There is no other way to describe it or explain it, and unfortunately, no amount of tragedy will ever likely to change that.

I remember reading years ago that perversely, gun sales spike after tragedies like these as more people get scared into wanting guns for self defense against the kind of psychos who do such things.

As such, if anything, mass shootings is likely to lead to looser gun control as more and more rich and politicly important voters would want guns, and conceal permits to carry their guns in public, and politicians would fight each other to given them more guns in exchange for their votes. And woe be-told anyone who dares to try to take away your average joe-six-pack's guns. You would sooner have a revolution or American civil war before Americans disarm, and any attempt to forcibly disarm America may well lead to revolution or civil war.

As one of the firearm owner myself, I got to tell you, I agree with most of the argument gun control advocates, but there is just no chance in hell I'll agree to disarm myself, simply because there is already 300 million firearms out there, so if they take away my firearm legally, there will be countless illegal guns out there on the street.

And also as an Asian in US, if worst come to worst, like another one 1992 LA race riot, or another Katrina, or the loooooong overdue earthquake, if they break out I'm afraid we Asians will be among the first one targeted in post disaster chaos. Basically there will be no repeat of Indonesia 1998 at my house.
 
As one of the firearm owner myself, I got to tell you, I agree with most of the argument gun control advocates, but there is just no chance in hell I'll agree to disarm myself, simply because there is already 300 million firearms out there, so if they take away my firearm legally, there will be countless illegal guns out there on the street.

And also as an Asian in US, if worst come to worst, like another one 1992 LA race riot, or another Katrina, or the loooooong overdue earthquake, if they break out I'm afraid we Asians will be among the first one targeted in post disaster chaos. Basically there will be no repeat of Indonesia 1998 at my house.

While I have always advoacated gun control for the good of society, I must say you have a point. There are too much prejudice out there specially against Asians to leave things to chance.
 
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