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I haven't read it before, is it any good? How accurate are the translations and the meanings in English?
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I haven't read it before, is it any good? How accurate are the translations and the meanings in English?
solarz
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I don't know much about the book, but the movie by Zhang Yimou is considered a huge classic. Not that I liked it personally.
Schumacher
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Yeah, pretty pathetic they're still paying any attention to it at all. The Nobel just gave China the second most meaningless prize to placate them.
The guy shouldn't go to collect the worthless Nobel prize. Such an action would easily generate more attention and commercial endorsement to exceed the prize money. LOL
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I just got done watching the US VP Debate between Joe Biden and Paul Ryan. Man did Old Man Joe put up a fight or what? He did good...he has a good sense of Capital Hill history. I mean remembers who did what and voted against on what bill, every time Paul Ryan tries to sell his POV to the audience.
bladerunner
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The Nobel literature prize is not a meaningless prize.
If you think only the science prizes count, the author of this article thinks the current crop of mainland scientists winning the prize are pretty dismal because of their approach.
I found the piece interesting with a lookback at previous Nobel hopefuls.
"........The reason why Chinese scientists are slipping further away from the Nobel Prize
1. Scientific research is stimulated by utilitarianism
The rise of Western science is closely related to the discovery of many important theories. However, Chinese research mostly covers the areas of better production techniques and mankind's sustainable existence rather than abstract theories. Though representing the highest prize in the sciences and arts, a Nobel Prize is unable to provide one with an affluent life which is considered to be of vital significance to China.
2. Colleges have grand buildings instead of celebrated professors and the students get high grades instead of research capabilities
People in China lack patience when they embark upon academic research. They have lost their innovative spirit because of the atmosphere of utilitarianism, the obsolete evaluation system of papers and the numerous politics-based projects. The number of Chinese academic papers is the largest in the world, according to recent statistics, yet only few of the papers are of high quality.
3. Scientists ruined by vanity
The academician Zeng Yitao astonished the whole world by creating the transgenic sheep in 1998 and the transgenic cattle in 1999. Later on however, he seldom made a public appearance . "A scientist will be ruined by either being an official or being engaged in various social activities," said Zeng. Having seen too many degenerated scientists, he is determined to keep his door closed and his visitors out.
4. Research with slow rewards is disregarded
Zhang Xingrui, a researcher with the Institute of the Corns at the Chongqing Three Gorges Academy, used to study potatoes. Since the funds allocated to the potato projects went down, and sometimes were even canceled, he had to take up the growth of the corns. Being key crops, wheat, corn and paddy can share the most scientific funds while the others get disregarded.
5. Backward lab equipment and insufficient funds to conduct college experiments Though great progress has been made in regards to the amount of scientific equipment and the space of the laboratories, problems such as insufficient funding, backward equipment and obsolete teaching methods remain unsolved as of today.
6. Too much time spent on conferences, papers and funds-seeking
"I have to spend a lot of time attending various conferences and writing applications for projects and am forced to conduct my experiments on weekends," complained one researcher............."
Joe Biden was on fire...Mr Ryan looked every bit a conservative.
I did not in 2008 nor will I this election vote for the Obama-Biden ticket.
Schumacher
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To clarify, I don't rate the science prizes too highly either. They certainly are more credible and less political but that's only when compared to the p**s prize etc.
The sooner more Chinese scientists realize this the sooner they can concentrate on real science instead of nobel 'science'.
Justifiably or not, the nobel prize in China is fast becoming at best a joke, at worst another western political tool.
I think they know this & this literature prize is partly an attempt to reverse this trend because they know it'll be their credibility on the line if this perception takes hold.
Equation
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Well that's the author's opinion, yet he forgot to mention the plethora of Chinese graduate students doing all of the grunt work conducting Research and Development all across university and college laboratories world wide and in every single field of math, science, medical, biology and engineering, while at the same time some of the Western professors will get most of the credit.
bladerunner
Banned Idiot
I would say the author was reflecting the views of some of China's old school senior sciencetist's views. Some of these have been reproduce throughout this forum throughout the years.
Thats true, and no doubt many of these grad students will become the lead scientist in research labs as well. The problem is to not fall into the habit of choosing subject matter on the basis of making a quick dollar.
antiterror13
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U.S. Navy cruiser, submarine collide - 15 Oct 12
WASHINGTON | Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:22pm EDT
(Reuters) - A U.S. Navy Aegis cruiser collided with a nuclear-powered submarine during exercises off the East Cost on Saturday, collapsing the sonar dome on the cruiser and possibly causing other damage, but no injuries, U.S. Navy officials said.
The collision between the USS San Jacinto and the nuclear-powered submarine USS Montpelier occurred about 3:30 p.m., the Navy said in a statement. The Navy declined to say where off the East Coast the accident occurred.
A Navy official said the watch team aboard the San Jacinto saw a periscope rise from the water about 100 to 200 yards (meters) ahead of the vessel during the exercise. The cruiser ordered "all back," but the San Jacinto still collided with the submarine.
The collision caused the collapse of the cruiser's sonar dome, a bulbous-shaped device on the bow of the ship beneath the water line, the Navy official said on condition of anonymity.
The rubber dome houses some of the vessel's electronic navigation, detection and ranging equipment.
The Navy said no personnel were injured during the incident and there was no damage to the submarine's nuclear-powered propulsion plant. Both vessels were operating under their own power.
The ships were part of a strike group led by the aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman. The Truman was in the area and providing support to the vessels.
The incident is being investigated, the Navy said, and overall damage to both ships is still being evaluated.
(Reporting By David Alexander; Editing by Peter Cooney)
WASHINGTON | Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:22pm EDT
(Reuters) - A U.S. Navy Aegis cruiser collided with a nuclear-powered submarine during exercises off the East Cost on Saturday, collapsing the sonar dome on the cruiser and possibly causing other damage, but no injuries, U.S. Navy officials said.
The collision between the USS San Jacinto and the nuclear-powered submarine USS Montpelier occurred about 3:30 p.m., the Navy said in a statement. The Navy declined to say where off the East Coast the accident occurred.
A Navy official said the watch team aboard the San Jacinto saw a periscope rise from the water about 100 to 200 yards (meters) ahead of the vessel during the exercise. The cruiser ordered "all back," but the San Jacinto still collided with the submarine.
The collision caused the collapse of the cruiser's sonar dome, a bulbous-shaped device on the bow of the ship beneath the water line, the Navy official said on condition of anonymity.
The rubber dome houses some of the vessel's electronic navigation, detection and ranging equipment.
The Navy said no personnel were injured during the incident and there was no damage to the submarine's nuclear-powered propulsion plant. Both vessels were operating under their own power.
The ships were part of a strike group led by the aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman. The Truman was in the area and providing support to the vessels.
The incident is being investigated, the Navy said, and overall damage to both ships is still being evaluated.
(Reporting By David Alexander; Editing by Peter Cooney)
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