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Franklin

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US evacuates embassy in Tripoli, Libya because of ongoing militia violence in the city. Afther Iraq it seems that Libya is falling apart at the scenes as well. The same will likely happen in Afghanistan too after the US completely redraws.

U.S. Embassy in Libya evacuates personnel

The U.S. Embassy in Libya evacuated its personnel on Saturday because of heavy militia violence in the capital, Tripoli, U.S. officials said.

About 150 personnel, including 80 U.S. Marines were evacuated from the embassy in the early hours of Saturday morning and were driven across the border into Tunisia, U.S. officials confirm to CNN.

CNN has learned the plan to evacuate the Americans was in the works for several days, but the decision to carry out the plan was made just in the last few days as the security situation around the embassy deteriorated.

Militia fighting in the area of the embassy and airport has degraded security in Tripoli significantly.

The Libyan government was informed of the evacuation after it was carried out, according to U.S. officials.

The Pentagon had a "robust package of military forces" in the vicinity but out of sight, ready to move in if the convoy of evacuees had come under attack.

CNN has learned there were two F-16s on combat air patrol overhead, a drone tracking the convoy to the border and a Navy destroyer offshore in the Mediterranean.

There were also several dozen heavily armed Marines flying overhead on V-22 Osprey aircraft in an "airborne response force" that were prepared to land and rapidly evacuate the Americans during the transit to the Tunisian border if they came under attack.

The Pentagon had pressed for weeks to evacuate the embassy, especially after the Tripoli airport came under repeated militia attack, leaving Americans no way to get out via commercial air, the official said.

The decision to use vehicles to drive the Americans across the border was seen as the best low-profile approach to conducting the evacuation rather than sending U.S. military helicopters and troops into Tripoli.

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delft

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US evacuates embassy in Tripoli, Libya because of ongoing militia violence in the city. Afther Iraq it seems that Libya is falling apart at the scenes as well. The same will likely happen in Afghanistan too after the US completely redraws.



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Part of the price to be paid for the destruction of Libya. A much higher price is being paid by the Libyan people.
 

kwaigonegin

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The older I get the stronger i feel that the US should stop intervening in other country's internal issues. Nothing good has come out of these countries post US withdrawal. In most cases the local populace actually suffers even more after the toppling of the despot.
 

joshuatree

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I don't know about hate crime but hopefully violent crimes like this will inspire Chinese youths, and parents, who are too focused on intellectual development to devote more time and energy to physically toughening up a bit and learning the language of violence just in case. Require some basic competency in martial arts, as well as track, as part of every child's education. Seeing how physically unfit many Asian kids are, not just Chinese, and knowing a big part of it has to do with overemphasis on academics, and having fought this in my own upbringing, it just disgusts me.

Not that that necessarily would have prevented this from happening or saved this guy from this fate, having a concealed firearm and knowing how and when to use it would probably have mattered more. At least take the other guy(s) out even if he himself was dying.

Well in the last 50 years, the emphasis on academics did help bring many Asian families into middle class, it helped propel the Asian Tigers. So that somehow is etched into the psyche. However, I'm noticing more younger generation Asians now do take a bigger interest in sports so I think we'll see more diversity aside from academics in the future.

USC is also to blame on this. It spins heavily on how beautiful its campus is and rarely talks about the surrounding neighborhood. Students can easily be misled on the severity of the crime in the area. Just look at their recent comments, this is an isolated incident. No it isn't. It's always been ghetto. Students don't call the housing (Parkside) on the campus corner of Vermont and Exposition the Darkside for nothing.
 
The classical Greek and European education went on the notion of 'sound mind, sound body' with a good emphasis on physical fitness as a necessary part of a well-rounded education (including wrestling and fencing), this is something that Chinese and Asians need to have more of in their general educational setup.

That's the thing, in classical Chinese upbringing both martial arts and intellectual studies are considered equally important and complement each other. As joshuatree mentioned, the prevalence of solely focusing on academic achievement came about only in recent decades after economic development gained momentum and people regarded academic studies, accurately, as key to becoming wealthy however what many people get wrong is that it need not be at the cost of not developing other aspects of a person whether it be physical fitness or social skills or morals. Hopefully, also as joshuatree mentioned, people who think this way are shrinking in numbers.
 

AssassinsMace

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It's interesting how so many Chinese students overseas are killed. You had a couple instances at USC. Then there's the Boston Marathon bombing. You had a Chinese student killed during the Virginia Tech massacre to where the Chicago Sun Times tried to frame him as being the shooter and a terrorist on orders from Beijing. You also have the student that was cut into pieces in Canada and sent through the mail all over Canada to unsuspecting people. There was a student killed in Ireland that I remember reading several years ago.
 
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broadsword

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It's interesting how so many Chinese students overseas are killed. You had a couple instances at USC. Then there's the Boston Marathon bombing. You had a Chinese student killed during the Virginia Tech massacre to where the Chicago Sun Times tried to frame him as being the shooter and a terrorist on orders from Beijing. You also have the student that was cut into pieces in Canada and sent through the mail all over Canada to unsuspecting people. There was a student killed in Ireland that I remember reading several years ago.


It is a consequence of globalization and a rising China. With more Chinese venturing overseas than ever, what you quoted can only be the tip of the iceberg. Their incomes are rising and cost of travel relatively cheaper, therefore we will read more news regarding Chinese in other countries that were unheard of in the 80's.
 

AssassinsMace

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It is a consequence of globalization and a rising China. With more Chinese venturing overseas than ever, what you quoted can only be the tip of the iceberg. Their incomes are rising and cost of travel relatively cheaper, therefore we will read more news regarding Chinese in other countries that were unheard of in the 80's.

I was reading a story recently about ten mountain climbers from varying countries who were in Pakistan when they were kidnapped by the Pakistani Taliban. There was one American who was of Chinese descent and he's the reason why the group was kidnapped because the kidnappers thought they could get more from ransom because he was Chinese and American. I don't think Beijing would give a hoot and those Taliban don't know that him being American isn't important to Americans. Hence why this story was not given any attention in the media. Apparently a large portion of the mountain climbers including the Chinese-American would later kill themselves because they saw no hope of being rescued.

Japanese businessmen use to get kidnapped for ransom in Mexico and now I'm hearing Chinese businessmen are now too. You now have Filipinos kidnapping Chinese at Malaysian resorts and taking them back to the Philippines for ransom.

Were some of these Chinese students targeted because they were Chinese? Unknown at least publicly. Yeah it's probably going happen more often.
 

broadsword

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The media, at least from one source, were spinning that the Taliban was intentionally targeting the American Chinese.

Oh yes, in the past, it was the Japanese tourists who were often the victims of crimes. Nowadays, it's the Chinese. We have to get used to this kind of news and those involving disasters. China's population is about 4 1/2 times the US' but their factory wages are still 1/10 and as they go up, Chinese and other emerging nationalities will be visible everywhere.
 

delft

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I wondered where to leave this one. It looks at half of the World:
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US retreats post-haste from Libya


The closure of the American embassy in Libya was probably overdue, as that country has descended into anarchy. The wheel has turned full circle since the Western invasion of Libya three years ago under the NATO flag, pushing the agenda of ‘regime change’.

From wherever he is, the late Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi must be watching with glee that the Europeans and Americans who hunted him down are themselves now running away in panic, fearing the prospect of butchery and sudden death, while the NATO cannot be of any use anymore. In any case, NATO has its hands full, busy mobilizing in the Black Sea and the Baltic states.
But amidst the avalanche of media accounts on the evacuation of Americans from Tripoli yesterday, what arrests the mind and compels it to think is the graphic report by ABC News giving the inside track on how the evacuation actually took place. Of course, it wasn’t from the rooftop of the American embassy in Tripoli in helicopters, but nonetheless this is indeed high drama — with F-16 fighter aircraft, drones, a naval destroyer and rapid reaction force on deployment.
One doesn’t know quite whether to laugh or cry in such moments of mixed feelings. Most certainly, the ABC report doesn’t convey an elegant picture of the superpower in retreat. To be sure, this spectacle will hurt President Barack Obama politically and will become a signpost in world politics, especially international security.
Unsurprisingly, Obama — or V-P Joe Biden — is nowhere to be seen or heard and state secretary John Kerry is left to carry the can of worms. That is, perhaps, a prudent decision by the White House, carefully taken. And Kerry scrambled to announce that this won’t be “permanent” retreat from Libya. Sure thing, this can’t be a permanent retreat. Wherever there is oil in the Middle Eastern sands, America has to be there.
But the real sophistry lies somewhere else — in Kerry’s claim, here, that the Americans as such are not the targets of the free-wheeling Libyan militia. Now, that’s a white lie. Forgot the grotesque killing of Ambassador Christopher Stevens in the pin-pointed 2012 Benghazi attack on the CIA station by killers it only had trained to kill?
In fact, the Obama administration is playing safe lest the Benghazi attack — which still haunts Hillary Clinton’s political future and already capped Susan Rice’s expected surge in the Obama cabinet at that time — repeats itself. Conceivably, Libya could figure in a big way in the 2016 presidential election in the US.
But then, that will be more as the stuff of polemics and grandstanding by the American politicians. The big question is why the searing experiences in Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan aren’t compelling a rethink of the ABC of the US’ regional policies in pushing the agenda of ‘regime change’ in foreign countries. The US needs a serious self-introspection here.
Syria has been destroyed and it could soon be Ukraine’s turn — and in both cases it is the US’ interference in these countries’ delicately poised internal dynamic on the basis of geopolitical calculations and cold-hearted self-interests, albeit camouflaged as something else, which led to the bloody upheaval.
Libya becomes particularly important, because radical islamists are tasting victory there and they are potentially part of the global project of the Caliphate. It may not be the blood of Westerners that is reddening the Libyan sands, but human blood nonetheless — and the cry of the ‘jihad’ in Libya will resonate all across the Middle East — and even beyond.
Suffice to say, it is the Western policies that are the breeding ground for ‘jihadism’ today. Wherever Americans go in the Muslim world to establish their hegemony, ‘jihadis’ follow. The point is, the demons that the US-led NATO let loose in Libya to destroy the Gaddafi regime are coming for the Americans now. It’s quintessentially a replay of Afghanistan and Iraq.
A second issue concerns the role of the NATO as a global security organization, which Washington is promoting. The western alliance was in a triumphalist mood over the ‘victory’ in Libya in 2011. and the way NATO handled the war was projected as “a new model” (here). In retrospect, NATO has so much blood on its hands and the touted gains are highly dubious, to say the least. As the NATO prepares for the summit in September in Wales, Libya is presenting itself as a ’stimulant’ to make western statesmen rethink the alliance’s future. But, can they cope with such an intellectual, moral challenge?
However, a much larger question also arises here. The US’ diplomatic retreat from Libya becomes hugely symbolic. It presents the picture of a superpower in disarray, retreating in fear and trepidation. To be sure, the Taliban won’t have to look far to know what to to next if they are serious about scuttling the upcoming US military bases in their country — simply, lob a missile or two into the American embassy compound in Kabul.
Furthermore, this unseemly spectacle from the Libyan deserts of Obama’s men and women beating the retreat is not going to help make the US’ pivot to Asia any more convincing as a strategy in the sceptical eyes of the Asia-Pacific countries.
Pray, why should, for example, India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi take seriously the lavish invitation extended to his government last week by the US assistant secretary of state Nisha Desai Biswal for India to play a “vital role” in the Obama administration’s rebalance to Asia — or even take seriously what she lauded rhetorically as Washington’s “strategic bet on the consequential role of Asia’s 4.3 billion people in the 21st century”? (here).
The really good thing from the Indian perspective is that the Obama administration’s Libyan retreat has sailed into view just days ahead of the US-India Strategic Dialogue in Delhi. It cannot be lost on the policymakers in Delhi that India’s strategic autonomy and its capacity to navigate an independent course in the contemporary world keeping its national priorities of development in full perspective is not a debatable foreign-policy ideal anymore, but has become a compelling necessity today.
Posted in Diplomacy, Military, Politics.

Tagged with BRICS, Iraq, ISIL, Islamism, Libya, Syria, Taliban.

By M K Bhadrakumar – July 27, 2014
NATO will always carry the stigma of the destruction of Libya and soon perhaps also of Ukraine. A good first step would be for Germany to leave.
 
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