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AssassinsMace

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The story goes that Obama on year one of his administration did not bring Michelle on a state visit to China as a message to Beijing of what relations were going to be like. The date of this trip coincides around the President's trip to neighboring countries to sway any fears that Obama was backtracking on the "pivot" towards Asia that was once delayed before and caused nervousness. No need for this theater to counterbalance the pivot's message if this were a real commitment and not some bluff and game of chicken.
 

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Chinese Passenger Plane Passed North Korea Rocket Trajectory
By Sam Kim Mar 5, 2014 4:35 AM

A China Southern Airlines Co. (1055) airplane carrying 220 passengers passed through the trajectory of a rocket launched seven minutes earlier by North Korea, a South Korean official said.

China Southern flight CZ628, operating as a code-share with Japan Airlines Co. (9201) as flight JL5021, was headed to Shenyang, China from Narita airport in Japan when North Korea fired the missile at 4:17 p.m. yesterday, South Korean Defense Ministry spokesman Kim Min Seok said today by phone. The jet was over international water at an altitude of 10 kilometers (32,800 feet) at 4:24 p.m. when it crossed the trajectory of the missile, which reached a height of 20 kilometers, Kim said.

“The rocket could have hit the plane on its way down,” Kim said. “North Korea had not given any warning. It was an unexpected and immoral act that goes against international norms.” The ministry has notified China through “certain channels” of the closeness of the trajectory, he said.

North Korea’s missile launches coincide with joint U.S.- South Korean military drills that Kim Jong Un’s regime has denounced as a rehearsal for war. The rocket launches began on Feb. 21, disrupting a period of easing tensions between the two Koreas highlighted by the first reunions in more than three years of families divided by the 1950-1953 Korean War.

China Southern Airlines’ public relations department didn’t respond to an e-mail seeking comment on the flight. Mao Lixing, from the company’s investor relations department, said she couldn’t immediately respond. The Chinese Embassy in Seoul didn’t answer a call seeking comment.

Shares Fall

China Southern, the nation’s biggest domestic carrier, fell 1.9 percent in Hong Kong trading, the most since Feb. 20. Air China Ltd. (601111) declined 0.6 percent, while China Eastern Airlines Corp., the second-largest carrier, closed unchanged after earlier dropping as much as 0.7 percent. Japan Airlines closed 1.2 percent lower in Tokyo.

Flight JL5021, operated by China Southern, departed at 2:16 pm from Narita yesterday, according to JAL’s website.

North Korea fired a total of seven short-range missiles yesterday into the sea, including four that South Korea’s Defense Ministry estimated flew more than 150 kilometers (93 miles), far enough to reach its capital Seoul.

The rockets hit their targeted areas off the eastern coast “precisely,” the official Korean Central News Agency said today, citing a North Korean military spokesman it didn’t identify. North Korea has the right to launch rockets in self-defense and will not abandon its nuclear deterrent for the sake of dialogue, the spokesman said in the report.

‘Special Alert’

“There are no signs a nuclear test is imminent in the North,” South Korean Defense Minister Kim Kwan Jin told lawmakers at a hearing today. “North Korea has completed basic preparations for a long-range missile launch.”

All North Korean troops are on “special alert” in response to the U.S.-South Korean drills that began Feb. 24, senior South Korea Defense Ministry official Kim Kwang Woo said at the same hearing. The North also continues construction at its long-range missile launch site, he said.

Earlier today, South Korea’s Unification Ministry said in a text message that it delivered the North a proposal for talks on regularly holding family reunions.

South Korea diverted its commercial airplanes to avoid collisions before the North launched long-range rockets in 2012. The short-range launches yesterday could not be predicted, the defense minister said.

“Our military is closely monitoring for additional launches,” Kim said. “It’s difficult to predict North Korea’s actions.”

North Korea fired its rockets yesterday from mobile launchers and four of them are believed to be capable of flying as far as 180 kilometers, he said.

To contact the reporter on this story: Sam Kim in Seoul at [email protected]

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Rosalind Mathieson at [email protected]

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chuck731

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You can't undo an apology unless you never believed in it in the first place. Hence why so many believed it was insincere in the first place.

Those who call for undoing the apology are not the same ones who issued the apology. Those who issued the apology seem to stand by the apology and called attempts to revise it or dilute it "ridiculous".
 

chuck731

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Chinese Passenger Plane Passed North Korea Rocket Trajectory
By Sam Kim Mar 5, 2014 4:35 AM

A China Southern Airlines Co. (1055) airplane carrying 220 passengers passed through the trajectory of a rocket launched seven minutes earlier by North Korea, a South Korean official said.

China Southern flight CZ628, operating as a code-share with Japan Airlines Co. (9201) as flight JL5021, was headed to Shenyang, China from Narita airport in Japan when North Korea fired the missile at 4:17 p.m. yesterday, South Korean Defense Ministry spokesman Kim Min Seok said today by phone. The jet was over international water at an altitude of 10 kilometers (32,800 feet) at 4:24 p.m. when it crossed the trajectory of the missile, which reached a height of 20 kilometers, Kim said.

“The rocket could have hit the plane on its way down,” Kim said. “North Korea had not given any warning. It was an unexpected and immoral act that goes against international norms.” The ministry has notified China through “certain channels” of the closeness of the trajectory, he said.

North Korea’s missile launches coincide with joint U.S.- South Korean military drills that Kim Jong Un’s regime has denounced as a rehearsal for war. The rocket launches began on Feb. 21, disrupting a period of easing tensions between the two Koreas highlighted by the first reunions in more than three years of families divided by the 1950-1953 Korean War.

China Southern Airlines’ public relations department didn’t respond to an e-mail seeking comment on the flight. Mao Lixing, from the company’s investor relations department, said she couldn’t immediately respond. The Chinese Embassy in Seoul didn’t answer a call seeking comment.

Shares Fall

China Southern, the nation’s biggest domestic carrier, fell 1.9 percent in Hong Kong trading, the most since Feb. 20. Air China Ltd. (601111) declined 0.6 percent, while China Eastern Airlines Corp., the second-largest carrier, closed unchanged after earlier dropping as much as 0.7 percent. Japan Airlines closed 1.2 percent lower in Tokyo.

Flight JL5021, operated by China Southern, departed at 2:16 pm from Narita yesterday, according to JAL’s website.

North Korea fired a total of seven short-range missiles yesterday into the sea, including four that South Korea’s Defense Ministry estimated flew more than 150 kilometers (93 miles), far enough to reach its capital Seoul.

The rockets hit their targeted areas off the eastern coast “precisely,” the official Korean Central News Agency said today, citing a North Korean military spokesman it didn’t identify. North Korea has the right to launch rockets in self-defense and will not abandon its nuclear deterrent for the sake of dialogue, the spokesman said in the report.

‘Special Alert’

“There are no signs a nuclear test is imminent in the North,” South Korean Defense Minister Kim Kwan Jin told lawmakers at a hearing today. “North Korea has completed basic preparations for a long-range missile launch.”

All North Korean troops are on “special alert” in response to the U.S.-South Korean drills that began Feb. 24, senior South Korea Defense Ministry official Kim Kwang Woo said at the same hearing. The North also continues construction at its long-range missile launch site, he said.

Earlier today, South Korea’s Unification Ministry said in a text message that it delivered the North a proposal for talks on regularly holding family reunions.

South Korea diverted its commercial airplanes to avoid collisions before the North launched long-range rockets in 2012. The short-range launches yesterday could not be predicted, the defense minister said.

“Our military is closely monitoring for additional launches,” Kim said. “It’s difficult to predict North Korea’s actions.”

North Korea fired its rockets yesterday from mobile launchers and four of them are believed to be capable of flying as far as 180 kilometers, he said.

To contact the reporter on this story: Sam Kim in Seoul at [email protected]

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Rosalind Mathieson at [email protected]

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It seems pretty clear that North Korea doesn't have much of an efficient civil service that knows all its duties and responsibilities, and would carry them out to ensure proper and smooth functioning of all undertakings the government might embark on, such as warning the passenger planes of an ally that a missile test in the airspace it will traverse is underway.

Instead what passes for civil service in North Korea is a collection of spinless sycophants who lives for no other purpose than flatter a 30 years old blood thirsty little Caligula of a "leader". So if the little caligula didn't think of it, it won't be done.
 

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You can't undo an apology unless you never believed in it in the first place. Hence why so many believed it was insincere in the first place.
I call this move bullshit and bad but I think that's more because of stories of the ex-Korean comfort women (who are kept as aalmost sacred in both Koreas by some people) who travelled from Korea to Taiwan by train, witnessed snow on Burma front line or were used in Japanese brothels in 1940 in Singapore... Some people in Japan stick to stories like that and say that they would like to know for what they would apologise and some politicians are quick to pick up those stories. Seems like nothing new under the sun in this case and I realy doubt it will happen.
 
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...who travelled from Korea to Taiwan by train.
Seriously?

You may want to think about that comment.

As to the purported "undoing," of the apology, and how somehow this means the intial apology was therefore insincere. Hogwash.

As Chuck indicated earlier, "Those who call for undoing the apology are not the same ones who issued the apology. Those who issued the apology seem to stand by the apology and called attempts to revise it or dilute it "ridiculous".

If you wanted to, you could milk the air waves and news waves in the US (or any other relatively "free" nation) and cherry pick all sorts of outlandish "proposals" all the time, and then turn around and use them to label the US as a whole as the devil itself. And there are those who do, and who actually apply the term "Satan" to the US.

But any reasoned person knows this is ludicrous and completely disingenuous. People who do that are looking for such stories to backup up their radical view of the people they plan to paint with so broad a brush.

Until some kind of official Japanese government annoucment is made, or a successful vote to this end in their Diet is taken, I would not give such reports any credence or credibility whatsoever.
 
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AssassinsMace

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Those who call for undoing the apology are not the same ones who issued the apology. Those who issued the apology seem to stand by the apology and called attempts to revise it or dilute it "ridiculous".

The people attempting to revise history seem to disagree with you.
 

AssassinsMace

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Seriously?

You may want to think about that comment.

As to the purported "undoing," of the apology, and how somehow this means the intial apology was therefore insincere. Hogwash.

As Chuck indicated earlier, "Those who call for undoing the apology are not the same ones who issued the apology. Those who issued the apology seem to stand by the apology and called attempts to revise it or dilute it "ridiculous".

If you wanted to, you could milk the air waves and news waves in the US (or any other relatively "free" nation) and cherry pick all sorts of outlandish "proposals" all the time, and then turn around and use them to label the US as a whole as the devil itself. And there are those who do, and who actually apply the term "Satan" to the US.

But any reasoned person knows this is ludicrous and completely disingenuous. People who do that are looking for such stories to backup up their radical view of the people they plan to paint with so broad a brush.

Until some kind of official Japanese government annoucment is made, or a successful vote to this end in their Diet is taken, I would not give such reports any credence or credibility whatsoever.

I'd wish Americans would apply that to everyone else. I've seen plenty of times the Western media use internet postings in China by anonymous individuals to declare China a racist country. Like that doesn't happen in the US every minute? Just read yahoo. One example was there was a half-Chinese/ half-African girl singing on a Chinese talent show who was very popular and made it a long way on the show. Some in the Western media used or lied about racist postings on the internet to declare Chinese are racist despite her popularity from the public on the show. The irony is the British started that story which was picked up by the US. The same British media that called it racist for Chinese to make a big deal about one British man caught on video raping a Chinese girl in public in China. Or how about not just token examples being used but how about complete lies? Journalist Cynthia Tucker who makes the national news weekend round table shows when she worked for the Atlantic Journal Constitution wrote on her blog that the Chinese government is hiding from the Chinese people that the US elected a black man for President. She didn't have to show proof to have that published on her newspaper's blog. Interesting how some people are obligated to be reasonable while others don't have to bother.
 
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Jeff Head

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I'd wish Americans would apply that to everyone else. I've seen plenty of times the Western media use internet postings in China by anonymous individuals to declare China a racist country. Like that doesn't happen in the US every minute?

Journalist Cynthia Tucker who makes the national news weekend round table shows when she worked for the Atlantic Journal Constitution wrote on her blog that the Chinese government is hiding from the Chinese people that the US elected a black man for President. She didn't have to show proof to have that published on her newspaper's blog. Interesting how some people are obligated to be reasonable while others don't have to bother.
Plenty of Americans do apply reason, objectivity, and are evenhanded.

There are those who don't. Particularly with this admin, the news media is in the tank for Obama 110% and sadly, most of the major sources...not all...report whatever goes along with the Obama agenda.

But because some do this...does not mean that "Americans," as a whole or a majority do too.
 
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