You and Steelbird stay safe over there.
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kwaigonegin
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I'm puzzled. If the ancient Chinese regarded Xinjiang as a integral part of China, then how come they never extended the Great Wall around the regions borders to keep those pesky invaders and nomads from Central Asia at bay?
solarz
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Holy crap!
There are several things wrong about your question.
First, the Great Wall as you know it was built in the Ming Dynasty. It was built as a defense specifically against Mongol and Manchurian tribes.
Second, the concept of China has varied throughout its millenia of history. Not all ancient Chinese considered Xinjiang to be a part of its territory. I believe the Western Han, Early Tang, and Qing dynasties held territories in what would be considered as Xinjiang today. In fact, the Tang empire stretched beyond current Chinese borders in Xinjiang and stretched all the way to the Amu Darya river, which encompasses territories from modern Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, and Kyrgyztan.
Actually, most ancient Chinese regarded Xinjiang much the way medieval Russians would regard Siberia: it's a place where criminals and defeated political opponents are exiled to die a slow death. What they thought about Xinjiang is irrelevant today.
Xinjiang is an integral part of the People's Republic of China. That is a fact. No amount of spin can change that.
SteelBird
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Cambodia is a safe zone, so, I'm safe. Thank you!
Whenever there is a typhoon in South China Sea which claims hundreds of lives in the Philippines and Vietnam, the effect in Cambodia is cloudy, and raining all the days. The super heavy rain that we experience in Cambodia compared to those found in China is just like an ant compared to an elephant. Even the flood which has claimed about 100 lives and has not completely passed yet compared to those floods in China is just a small case.
The side effect of the typhoon.
Cambodia is a safe zone, so, I'm safe. Thank you!
Whenever there is a typhoon in South China Sea which claims hundreds of lives in the Philippines and Vietnam, the effect in Cambodia is cloudy, and raining all the days. The super heavy rain that we experience in Cambodia compared to those found in China is just like an ant compared to an elephant. Even the flood which has claimed about 100 lives and has not completely passed yet compared to those floods in China is just a small case.
The side effect of the typhoon.
Guys are the same all over, hey get my breakfast out here, and make my coffee "black"! I Love that picture Steel, hope my friend Luke is on high ground???? but he is a farm boy, LOL! brat
Thanks for your interesting POV on how the Great Wall came about. However it differs in places to the narrative contained in Wiki which provided the basis of my question.
I know very little about China And her people in a a historical perspective and I realise I would be derailing the thread by continuing along this line so Perhaps another time somewhere else...... Cheers.
solarz
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The Great Wall was created by the First Emperor by linking together existing fortifications. However, the wall back then was made of rammed earth. In fact, you can still see rammed earth walls at the western end of the Great Wall, at Jiayuguan. My wife's family is from that area, so I've actually visited the site back in 2009.
Various dynasties since Qin have worked on the Great Wall. However, the most extensive work done was during Ming, when the wall was fortified with stone and mortar. This is the wall that you will see today when you visit Beijing.
Quickie
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Cambodia is a safe zone, so, I'm safe. Thank you!
Whenever there is a typhoon in South China Sea which claims hundreds of lives in the Philippines and Vietnam, the effect in Cambodia is cloudy, and raining all the days. The super heavy rain that we experience in Cambodia compared to those found in China is just like an ant compared to an elephant. Even the flood which has claimed about 100 lives and has not completely passed yet compared to those floods in China is just a small case.
The side effect of the typhoon.
Cambodia is the fourth in line of the countries facing the typhoon. Phillipines is the first to face the Typhoon. Vietnam, the second. Laos, the third, followed by Cambodia. By the time it reached Thailand and Peninsular Malaysia, it's just nice cool breeze. East Malaysia and Borneo is a different story though as they are quite close to southern Phillipines.
Equation
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Cambodia is a safe zone, so, I'm safe. Thank you!
The side effect of the typhoon.
One down active power line and these people would be electrocuted. Heck even a water moccasin would've get me out of that water.
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