b787
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Relax, take it easy, claiming victory does not make you win, I presented Bombardier and Embraer forecasts, you want to accept them or not is not my problem.
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I say it again and this will be my last time. Forecast is not a trend.
You can tell people that you will be making US$1 million (an impressive forecast), which is a lot of money. However, if you show people that you made $3 million a couple years ago (which implies a negative growth), people will not be impressed and certainly won't invest in your company.
On the other hand, I can tell people that I will be making only $10,000 next year, significantly less than your income and a pathetic forecast. However, I was making only $15 three years ago. that's a >600 fold increase. People will be ecstatic to invest. They can buy lots of cheap stock and expect a huge upward swing.
That's the difference between a simple forecast and a more comprehensive trend analysis.
Again, I am confident that you are smart enough to understand the difference. That's why my conclusion has always been that you have been intensionally moving the goal post to avoid the topic of growth potential, which is key when discussing investment.
I am done here. You can have the last word if you want.
b787
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Forecasts are based upon trends, Bombardier and Embraer made market studies.
However you lack knowledge, do you know Embraer had a joint venture with Harbin where they were building Erj-145 and its private jet variants?
Do you know what did happen?
Check this time they are going to be build E-195s there if the set the plant.
Is China buying more? yes they are, but they are still far far away in fact at the most they can now compete with Brazil or Mexico but they are still far from Europe and the USA and Embraer is not going to set a private jet plant but a regional jet plant in the range of 150 passengers, which is the market of B-737 and A-320 with their E-195 if demand was as good as you say Embraer would not had closed the ERJ-145 plant and it would be pitching the Phenom.
They want to build the largest E-195, which is a regional jet and a small narrow body aircraft like SSJ-100 and B-737.
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Rostec Assembles the 300th SaM146 Current Engine for the Sukhoi Superjet 100 at UEC – Saturn
OCT 12, 2017
The 300th Russian-French SaM146 current engine for the Sukhoi Superjet 100 (SSJ100) aircraft has been assembled at UEC – Saturn (operating as part of Rostec's United Engine Corporation) and delivered to Sukhoi Civil Aircraft Company. To date, the SaM146 engine fleet has logged over 700,000 flight hours.
The SaM146 is an integrated power plant that incorporates an engine and a nacelle equipped by a thrust reverser. Deliveries and all after-sales services on the SaM146 are performed by PowerJet, a Franco-Russian joint venture between Safran Aircraft Engines and UEC – Saturn. UEC – Saturn, operating as part of Rostec State Corporation, is responsible for the design and manufacturing of a fan, a turbine and a low-pressure compressor, as well as for the general assembly and testing of the SaM146 engine, while the area of responsibility of Safran Aircraft Engines (France) covers a compressor, a high-pressure turbine, a combustion chamber, an accessory gearbox, AFC and power plant integration. The SaM146 engine and its manufacturing process are certified to the EASA and IAC AR regulations.
The SaM146 completed its certification tests in 2010 entering commercial operation as part of the Sukhoi Superjet 100 airliner in 2011. Today, the SaM146 powers international operators' aircraft both in Russia and overseas, specifically in Mexico, Ireland, Thailand (Royal Air Force) and in Kazakhstan.
"The SaM146 engine and the Sukhoi Superjet 100 are available both in and outside Russia, says SaM146 program manager at UEC – Saturn Mikhail Berdennikov. The operational experience of our engines is extremely successful in a broad range of climatic conditions, whether it be Mexico, where it is hot and high, or Yakutia, where it is cold. The engine provides excellent flight performance everywhere. The power plant has a dispatch reliability of 99.9%, which meets the best-in-class standards. At present, we have four certified variants of the SaM146: 1S17 – a baseline version; 1S18 – an improved thrust version; and two more variants – 1S17С and 1S18С – corporate aircraft versions."