Why China doesn't purchase weapons from Asian countries

rhino123 said:

As seen here, US did intervene in the selling of weapon and the possible tech that came with the weapon to Iran. This would also be the same case with Singapore selling weapons to China because most of Singapore's technology came from US.

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I doubt that
US only intervene because they are against Iran's nuclear programme, the singaporans are selling them missle parts, this is highly sensitive material that contribute to Iran's development of nukes.

I believe China or Iran could easily get their hands on less sensative tech. Moreover, China is different from Iran, US has alreadly accept the fact we have nuclear weapons it is very unlikely to demand for missle parts. Maybe something else we need.

adeptitus said:

I think the PRC is in the "supply" side to its Asian neighbors and not the other way around. China makes a wide range of small arms and really doesn't need to import from Singapore.

China could benefit from importing some systems from S. Korea, but I doubt the sale and tech transfer would occur, because most of S. Korean systems contain licensed or imported technology from US or EU.

I'm sure most of us are familiar with the excellent S. Korean navy ships. But I also like their K2 MBT, XK21 IFV, and the new KNR rifle.


p.s. the EU arms embargo on China is interpreted as ban on "weapons and munitions" by some, and sales of other military related items continue. For example:

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Arms equipment worth 19m was exported to China, including components for military navigation equipment and naval radar, military aero-engines and "technology for the production of combat aircraft".

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I don't think the arms embargo is strictly imposed, there are always loopholes or valid reasons for China to be able obtain western technology. It is alreadly known that european companies are cooperating with China in helicopter projects, Israel also sold the Cornershot to China's police for Olympic security purposes. China still have ways to seek for European tech. However I would like to focus my question mainly on Asian countries, which are China's closer neighbors.

美國友邦 said:

I don't think the arms embargo is strictly imposed, there are always loopholes or valid reasons for China to be able obtain western technology. It is alreadly known that european companies are cooperating with China in helicopter projects, Israel also sold the Cornershot to China's police for Olympic security purposes. China still have ways to seek for European tech. However I would like to focus my question mainly on Asian countries, which are China's closer neighbors.

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I think the main reason is like I have said before, whatever the Asians except of course the Japanese and the Koreans, could offer - China can build by themselves.

Also China is not far off in technology as many would have think she is. I have been to China many times and it never fail to amaze me the speed in which she developed.

I think tech wise, most Asian countries could not provide, all the other that China might want, is either highly sensitive and not to be provided that easily or a simple case, those Asian countries such as Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Burma, etc... do not have.

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I don't think any Asian nation has better indigenous military technology, including Japan and South Korea, let alone Indonesia, Malaysia, etc, etc

China doesn't purchase weapons from other Asian Countries simply because it doesn't need to. China is the biggest Asian Country (Excluding Russia, which China is trying to move away from. It is centered in Europe anyway.) there is. No one can really supply China adequately in numbers. And again, China is going for the indigenous road.

Singapore's technology upgrades don't really apply to China anyway, except for maybe the SAR-21(Being always-ambidextrous, but who can't add a cheap but potentially lip burning deflector?).

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It still baffles me how people would consider Turkey to be European....

antiterror13 said:

I don't think any Asian nation has better indigenous military technology, including Japan and South Korea, let alone Indonesia, Malaysia, etc, etc

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It's not who has the better weapons, a country should evaluate technology from different sources, compare and and study different designs or even upgrade them. We should also trade and cooperate with other countries.
Why did you think US imports German equipment despite they have a self-sufficient arms industry?
China should import Singaporean Terrext to help develope our new-generation AFTs.
Daewoo from Korea is also a company that produce very advanced tech which we may benefit from them.

Asian nations get most of their weapons from the European Union, Russia, and the US. China sells weapons, too, but not as much as the EU, Russia, and US. This is true for most nations in the whole world.

I think China works with other nations and spies on other nations to secretly obtain weapons technology from the EU, Russia, and the US to complement China's indigenous stuff. China even secretly works with and spies on Americans (I hate stating the obvious, I got to here).

I would not be surprised if China has secretly worked with South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Philippines, Australia, Saudi Arabia, India, Israel, many other US allies, and the US itself to obtain US technology. In fact, a few information leaked here and there reveal this is all true.

So China does "buy" weapons from Asian nations and many other nations around the world.

Evidence Please. :nono:

Infra_Man99 said:

I would not be surprised if China has secretly worked with South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Philippines, Australia, Saudi Arabia, India, Israel, many other US allies, and the US itself to obtain US technology. In fact, a few information leaked here and there reveal this is all true.

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Do you have any evidence to back that up?

You're also not making any sense when you suggest the US would work with China to steal its own technology.

FuManChu said:

Do you have any evidence to back that up?

You're also not making any sense when you suggest the US would work with China to steal its own technology.

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I am not suggesting, I am stating the truth. Again and again Mr. FuManChu, I remind you that this disussion is not about "making sense" or any other philosophical debates. It is trying to research what is really going on.

Read the news or easily use Google.com to find US citizens (Asian Americans, Indian Americans, and Caucasian Americans) selling certain technology to China, even though US laws officially prohibits them from selling these certain technology to China. Sometimes the sales or technology transfer is done by Chinese espionage, other times the US makes exceptions to willingly sell and transfer once-prohibited technology to China.

Even US President Ronald Reagan had secret deals with China, where he sold and transferred to China US military technology. If you don't know much about the nation called "The United States of America," trust me when I say that US President Ronald Reagan is known to be a very patriotic US president who was (supposedly) rock solid against communism, yet he willingly sold and transferred US military technology to China under open and secret deals. President Bush the first did the same, and so did President Clinton. This is still going on. Read the news or use Google.com to EASILY find proof of this.

Mr. FuManChu, many times life does not make sense, because we live in a most complex universe, where we have to search for the truth by firmly grounding ourselves with reality, and sometimes the search is very difficult, but nonetheless, we must avoid understanding the world through our daydreams and thoughts if we want to know the truth. Godspeed, Mr. FuManChu

The 80's US diplomatic policy like Iran Contra would make as much sense as the PLA buying all its land base equiptment from neughboring asian countries.
I am not saying it will never happen, but many decision made up top follow no common sense at all.