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kwaigonegin
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You're right in places like Laredo, El Paso etc but not in vast parts of no mans between Mexico and NM,Texas though. Those areas are pretty much flat arid land. Not saying it would not give false positives or even 100% effective but I feel it should at least be part of the toolkit used for detection. I think a GPR mounted on a low flying drones in predetermined flight paths would be helpful.. It wouldn't detect all tunnels for sure but I bet you it would find some, especially the longer ones going across the border in these areas.
TerraN_EmpirE
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Across the vast arid the most effective way to smuggle would be coyotes. Tunneling for hundreds of miles would be noticed and the resources beyond taxing. The men and materials would be to much you can't build a underground highway in the middle of nowhere without someone spotting it.
Besides in the middle of nowhere the chances of being caught change. Law enforcement agencies are not easily accessible those that do are forced to use assets like helicopters and All terrain vehicles with limitations on time on station. A few smugglers with large capacity packs are the most effective means of transportation and the least likely to be caught, yet they cannot transport the volume of a large tunnel. So tunnels are mostly urban.
For the bush lands its humans. Coyote guides with would be illegals being used as decoys using the vast territory and extreme environmental conditions to hide.
Besides in the middle of nowhere the chances of being caught change. Law enforcement agencies are not easily accessible those that do are forced to use assets like helicopters and All terrain vehicles with limitations on time on station. A few smugglers with large capacity packs are the most effective means of transportation and the least likely to be caught, yet they cannot transport the volume of a large tunnel. So tunnels are mostly urban.
For the bush lands its humans. Coyote guides with would be illegals being used as decoys using the vast territory and extreme environmental conditions to hide.
Underwater City in Cuba
The article you linked dates back to 2002. Any update on the findings?
Miragedriver
Brigadier
I will keep looking. Maybe it has disappeared along with the face on Mars. LOL
kwaigonegin
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Believe it or not, from what I read this guy is so wealthy and the drug trade so lucrative it actually affect mexico's economy. A lot of politicians know this as well. Between actual threats and the net effect he has on the economy as a whole from the drug business, no one is going to touch this guy unless it's a rival drug kingpin or some other external force.
Besides, even if he is taken out another will take his place so there is really no net positive effect. The only way to end this for good is for people to stop taking illegal drugs and that is probably 10 x harder than finding a cure for cancer. Another solution is to legalize and regulate it like cigarettes or booze but I don't see that happening.
TerraN_EmpirE
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Welsh Government Responds To UFO Questions In ‘Star Trek’ Klingon Language
When a Welsh Tory Assembly Member (AM) asked the Welsh Government questions about UFO sightings over the Cardiff airport and other parts of Wales, the Welsh government chose to in the of the villainous alien from the TV series Star Trek.
Tory Assembly Member (AM) Darren Millar, for Clwyd West, three questions to Edwina Hart, the Minister of Economy, Science and Transport, claimed UFO sightings and the Welsh Government’s response to the reports.
“Will the Minister make a statement on how many reports of unidentified flying objects there have been at Cardiff Airport since its acquisition by the Welsh Government?
“What discussions has the Welsh Government had with the Ministry of Defence regarding sightings of unidentified objects in Wales in each of the past five years?
“What consideration has the Welsh Government given to the funding of research into sightings of unidentified objects in Wales?”
In response to the questions, the Welsh Government , “jang vIDa je due luq. ‘ach ghotvam’e’ QI’yaH-devolved qaS.”
The translation of the Klingon language text being, “The minister will reply in due course. However this is a non-devolved matter.”
The government also told Millar to expect a full response in earthling language — Welsh or English — to the questions on July 15.
“It is believed to be the first time the Welsh government has chosen to communicate in Klingon,” the BBC commented.
Surprised at the trivializing to his inquiry, Millar retorted, “I’ve always suspected that Labour ministers came from another planet. This response confirms it.”
An Assembly source responded to Millar’s comment that “Labor ministers came from another planet,” quipping, “The only extra-terrestrial life seen near Cardiff recently seems to be Darren Millar. Perhaps instead of spending time and wasting Government resources asking questions about UFOs he should be fighting for the very real concerns of his constituents.”
A government source also explained that the Klingon language response was issued to the local media by a press officer who meant it only as a joke.
But despite the denigrating response from the Welsh Government, Millar could justifiably consider the questions he asked as addressing issues of “real concern to his constituents.”
A 2012 poll in the U.K. that “52 percent [of residents] believe UFO evidence has been covered up because widespread knowledge of their existence would threaten government stability.”
According to The Huffington Post, the poll found that more U.K. citizens believe in ETs and UFOs than in God. UFOs and aliens are hot topics in the U.K. and the mainstream media in the U.K. cover news related to UFO sightings extensively due to public interest in the subject.
A Tory spokesman, who spoke in defense of Millar, “Darren tabled these questions after being contacted by constituents. It’s nice to see a busy ‘Assembly source’ keeping close tabs of his work. Perhaps they’d like to comment on everything else he does for his constituents – and as shadow health minister across Wales – as well.”
Open Minds-TV’s Alejandro Rojas notes that U.K. government officials have often used ridicule to downplay citizens’ apparent concern about the subject of aliens and UFOs.
Rojas cites a tweet by Nick Pope in reaction to the Klingon language response to Millar’s question.
Pope, a freelance journalist and former U.K. Ministry of Defense (MoD) employee (1985-2006), who worked for the British government from 1991 to 1994 on a project investigating UFO sightings, tweeted, “Replying to an assemblyman’s question on UFOs in Klingon is a great way to ridicule the subject. I did similar things at the MoD. Qapla’.”
Nick Pope: Twitter
“Qapla’,” according to Rojas, means “success” in Klingon.
In a 2011 interview with Lee Spiegel for The Huffington Post, Pope alleged that government officials used “spin and dirty tricks” to discourage the media and public from taking the subject of UFOs seriously.
“To really achieve our policy of downplaying the UFO phenomenon, we would use a combination of ‘spin and dirty tricks.’ We used terms like UFO buffs and UFO spotters — terms that mean these people are nut jobs. In other words, we were implying that this is just a very somewhat quaint hobby that people have as opposed to a serious research interest.”
In line with Pope’s allegations, some UFO investigators who consider their work on the subject as “serious research” have often accused the U.S. government of sponsoring online UFO and alien hunters who promote outlandish alien/UFO sightings claims and conspiracy theories as part of a campagin of disinformation to ridicule legitimate investigators and investigations.
In the interview with Lee Spiegel, Pope said that despite the strategy of using ridicule to downplay the subject of UFOs and aliens, the U.K. government has actually conducted investigations with “serious research interest.”
“Every time we got a report from a pilot, we were checking the radar tapes. So it was an interesting sleight of hand. We were telling the public we’re not interested, this is all nonsense, but in reality, we were desperately chasing our tails and following this up in great detail.”
It is clear that the Welsh Government’s response in Klingonese to the questions about UFOs was calculated to trivialize and ridicule. That is why UFO and alien researchers needn’t hold their breath in anticipation of a considered response on July 15 to Assembly Member Darren Millar’s questions.
[Image: Getty]
I have a Inside source who has alerted me to the Real Reason the responce was in Klingon this is a sign that the Welsh and in Turn the UK; have established Diplomatic relations. In fact Highly placed members of the High Council of the Klingon Empire are in the UK meeting with Representatives. My Contact in the Klingon Empire Informs me that The Reason for this is that the Klingons have discovered a likening for Black pudding And the Klingon Ministry of Agriculture has found That the native Cuisine of the UK is quite delectable and Fashionable in the Empire. .
These people should have won the worst designer / architect of the year. Equation old buddy I know you will get a good laugh from these:
This is actually efficient, someone should refine it into a real design.
Equation
Lieutenant General
Yeah for prisoners in their prison cell.
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