What the Heck?! Thread (Closed)
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ShahryarHedayat
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I couldn’t decide where to place these posts, but I figured that the “What the Heck” thread might work out ok. The next two posts are famous (infamous) dictators (strongmen) that have blighted our plant within the last hundred years. Or in other words the despots we love to hate.
"History repeats itself, first as tragedy, then as farce," said Karl Marx.
The Great Dictators who brought death and war to millions in the Twentieth Century - Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot - did not make others think twice about the dangers of seeking absolute power. Instead, they seem to have encouraged them to take ever more eccentric and cruel routes to achieve it.
(clockwise from top right) Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao Zedong
Kim Jong-un, the Young Dictator of North Korea, has devised his own signature method of execution. His hair cut looks like one given to patients at metal hospitals
Picture: AFP/Getty Images
My friend
I think you must add The greatest US puppet , King of Kings ,Light of the race ,
The almighty Shah of Iran and his mighty Kingdom in island of stability, to your list
What a great man!
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kwaigonegin
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The shah was no angel.. That's for damn sure however I think he would've still been a better alternative to the ayatollahs.
ShahryarHedayat
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My friend , I respect your views about The last shah of Iran but please let me (as an Iranian citizen) correct (or edit) your view
The mohammad reza shah was a puppet and pure evil , and a nice servant for his beloved master
However for sake of US/NATO interests in ME , he would've still been a much much better alternative to the Mossadegh and ayatollahs.
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TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Looking at the Human Rights reports It seems to me like Iran just traded one Despot with a Royal Title for another set With a religious.It's not unique though.
The Russians Traded the tyrannical Tsars for Communism and Stalin, The Cubans traded the Batista regime for the Castro, The French Traded the King for the Reign of Terror and then for Napoleon. Charles the First was ousted for Oliver Cromwell. The corrupt Qing gave to the Corrupt Nationalist who gave to the Communists and Mao and the purges and famines.
arguing like this is Circular and pointless though. We can keep Hurling Accusations and arguing our view but in the end some will make one man a hero others will call him Despot. Alexander the great is a romantic heroic figure to Europeans and Greeks, yet to Eurasians He is Ishtar the Tyrant.
Sherman's March to the Sea, burned Cities and scared the South his name is still cursed to this day. Yet his actions forced the South into a weaker and weaker position bringing the Close of the American Civil war far sooner.
Truman Dropped the bomb twice killing over a hundred thousand, yet his actions were critical to Japan's Surrender preventing Operation Downfall Who's Estimated casualties for Allied forces alone ran to a million the US minted So many Purple Hearts that we still use those batches today.and at a 4-5 million Japanese casualty estimate from the time IT's hard to say that it was not a necessary action.
Hero or villain? This is not the place for that argument.
to use the Quote, Some Times it is true. "you either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
Or perhaps Robert Oppenheimer's Quote of the Bhagavad Gita. " I am become Death, Destroyer of Worlds."
The Russians Traded the tyrannical Tsars for Communism and Stalin, The Cubans traded the Batista regime for the Castro, The French Traded the King for the Reign of Terror and then for Napoleon. Charles the First was ousted for Oliver Cromwell. The corrupt Qing gave to the Corrupt Nationalist who gave to the Communists and Mao and the purges and famines.
arguing like this is Circular and pointless though. We can keep Hurling Accusations and arguing our view but in the end some will make one man a hero others will call him Despot. Alexander the great is a romantic heroic figure to Europeans and Greeks, yet to Eurasians He is Ishtar the Tyrant.
Sherman's March to the Sea, burned Cities and scared the South his name is still cursed to this day. Yet his actions forced the South into a weaker and weaker position bringing the Close of the American Civil war far sooner.
Truman Dropped the bomb twice killing over a hundred thousand, yet his actions were critical to Japan's Surrender preventing Operation Downfall Who's Estimated casualties for Allied forces alone ran to a million the US minted So many Purple Hearts that we still use those batches today.and at a 4-5 million Japanese casualty estimate from the time IT's hard to say that it was not a necessary action.
Hero or villain? This is not the place for that argument.
to use the Quote, Some Times it is true. "you either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
Or perhaps Robert Oppenheimer's Quote of the Bhagavad Gita. " I am become Death, Destroyer of Worlds."
broadsword
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Then there are some leaders who don't make the list on a purely technical reason -- they were democratically elected by their respective people. Hitler is the #1 man. And there are others as well.
Miragedriver
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Orcs, elves and goblins reenact Battle of the Five Armies from Tolkien's Hobbit. Ok people. Get a life!
Hundreds of reenactment enthusiasts dressed as characters such as elves, dwarves, goblins and orcs from J.R.R. Tolkien's book The Hobbit re-enact the Battle of the Five Armies
Picture: REUTERS/David W Cerny
Enthusiasts take part in a reenactment of The Battle of the Five Armies in a forest near the town of Doksy in the Czech Republic
Picture: MICHAL CIZEK/AFP/Getty Images
Enthusiasts take part in a reenactment of The Battle of the Five Armies in a forest near the town of Doksy in the Czech Republic
Picture: MICHAL CIZEK/AFP/Getty Images
Back to bottling my Grenache
Hundreds of reenactment enthusiasts dressed as characters such as elves, dwarves, goblins and orcs from J.R.R. Tolkien's book The Hobbit re-enact the Battle of the Five Armies
Picture: REUTERS/David W Cerny
Enthusiasts take part in a reenactment of The Battle of the Five Armies in a forest near the town of Doksy in the Czech Republic
Picture: MICHAL CIZEK/AFP/Getty Images
Enthusiasts take part in a reenactment of The Battle of the Five Armies in a forest near the town of Doksy in the Czech Republic
Picture: MICHAL CIZEK/AFP/Getty Images
Back to bottling my Grenache
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
oh com'on Dude, Just a bunch of Guys having some fun on the weekend pounding on one another with rubber swords and DIY armor. I mean Heck good practice for when Putin comes to town. >
Miragedriver
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oh com'on Dude, Just a bunch of Guys having some fun on the weekend pounding on one another with rubber swords and DIY armor. I mean Heck good practice for when Putin comes to town. >
I hope you're not talking about this:
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Ye' Ol' school... Me loard... Twas Medieval
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