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KIENCHIN

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Pakistan recently released an Indian soldier they were holding for a few months. And that is an ongoing, deep-seated conflict. Let's hope India does the right thing before this guy passes away... China sent him a new passport back in 2014 to get this done:
That is how Petty Indians are, the war has been over for so many years let the poor man go, what harm can he do. Now that the plight of this man is made known world wide hopefully he would be allowed to go soon
 

Zool

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That is how Petty Indians are, the war has been over for so many years let the poor man go, what harm can he do. Now that the plight of this man is made known world wide hopefully he would be allowed to go soon

Its in the works as per
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. India is a wash in red tape for all things big and small, so an old man's long wait for approval to go home may not have been exactly pettiness when major policies and programs take forever. More an indication of structural problems with Indian bureaucracy and weak development of people-people ties and transit between India & China.

What worries me more is the online Indian jingos on certain defense forums (and Indian Press for that matter) who equate the same hate and racism they have for Pakistan with China now. Its pretty ugly some of the things they spew, and this man's case was no exception. Beyond that, its just not strategically wise to cultivate China as a second enemy on its boarders, when there is already a civilizational conflict going strong between India-Pakistan. China does not NEED to be an enemy for India, but rather stay a partner in some areas and competitor in others. But they just seem to want to take it there, which is crazy to me.
 
it's Breaking News at gazeta.ru right now (
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US investigators corroborate some aspects of the Russia dossier
For the first time, US investigators say they have corroborated some of the communications detailed in a 35-page dossier compiled by a former British intelligence agent, multiple current and former US law enforcement and intelligence officials tell CNN.
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, then-President-elect Donald Trump and President Barack Obama were briefed on the existence of the dossier prior to Trump's inauguration.
None of the newly learned information relates to the salacious allegations in the dossier. Rather it relates to conversations between foreign nationals. The dossier details about a dozen conversations between senior Russian officials and other Russian individuals. Sources would not confirm which specific conversations were intercepted or the content of those discussions due to the classified nature of US intelligence collection programs.
But the intercepts do confirm that some of the conversations described in the dossier took place between the same individuals on the same days and from the same locations as detailed in the dossier, according to the officials. CNN has not confirmed whether any content relates to then-candidate Trump.
The corroboration, based on intercepted communications, has given US intelligence and law enforcement "greater confidence" in the credibility of some aspects of the dossier as they continue to actively investigate its contents, these sources say.
Reached for comment this afternoon, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said, "We continue to be disgusted by CNN's fake news reporting."
Spicer later called back and said, "This is more fake news. It is about time CNN focused on the success the President has had bringing back jobs, protecting the nation, and strengthening relationships with Japan and other nations. The President won the election because of his vision and message for the nation."
Spokespeople for the FBI, Department of Justice, CIA and Office of the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment.
US intelligence officials emphasize the conversations were solely between foreign nationals, including those in or tied to the Russian government, intercepted during routine intelligence gathering.
Some of the individuals involved in the intercepted communications were known to the US intelligence community as "heavily involved" in collecting information damaging to Hillary Clinton and helpful to Donald Trump, two of the officials tell CNN.
Until now, US intelligence and law enforcement officials have said they could not verify any parts of the dossier.
Officials who spoke to CNN cautioned they still have not reached any judgment on whether the Russian government has any compromising information about the President.
Officials did not comment on or confirm any alleged conversations or meetings between Russian officials and US citizens, including associates of then-candidate Trump.
One of the officials stressed to CNN they have not corroborated "the more salacious things" alleged in the dossier.
CNN has not reported any of the salacious allegations.
Trump dismissed the entire dossier last month during his only news conference as President-elect, saying in January, "It's all fake news. It's phony stuff. It didn't happen."
The dossier was commissioned as opposition research by political opponents of then-candidate Trump and compiled by a former British intelligence agent. US intelligence agencies checked out the former MI6 operative and his vast network throughout Europe and found him and his sources to be credible.
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Dec 3, 2016
now "Incoming National Security Advisor
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issued a ringing endorsement today of American exceptionalism and declared, “we have always been the indispensable nation and we always will be.” ..." wow
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source is BreakingDefense
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while now I read National security adviser Flynn discussed sanctions with Russian ambassador, despite denials, officials say
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(LOL "The law against U.S. citizens interfering in foreign diplomacy, known as the Logan Act, stems from a 1799 statute that has never been prosecuted."
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now that would be something if true
Russia Considers Returning Snowden to U.S. to ‘Curry Favor’ With Trump: Official
U.S. intelligence has collected information that Russia is considering turning over Edward Snowden as a "gift" to President Donald Trump — who has called the NSA leaker a "spy" and a "traitor" who deserves to be executed.

That's according to a senior U.S. official who has analyzed a series of highly sensitive intelligence reports detailing Russian deliberations and who says a Snowden handover is one of various ploys to "curry favor" with Trump. A second source in the intelligence community confirms the intelligence about the Russian conversations and notes it has been gathered since the inauguration.

Snowden's ACLU lawyer, Ben Wizner, told NBC News they are unaware of any plans that would send him back to the United States.

"Team Snowden has received no such signals and has no new reason for concern," Wizner said.

Snowden responded to NBC's report on Twitter and said it shows that he did not work with the Russian government.

"Finally: irrefutable evidence that I never cooperated with Russian intel," Snowden said. "No country trades away spies, as the rest would fear they're next."

Snowden's Russian lawyer, Anatoly Kucherena, reacted to the report with dismay.

"There are no reasons to extradite Edward Snowden to the U.S.," Kucherena said, according to TASS, the state-owned news agency. "This is some kind of speculation coming from so-called US special service sources. I think this topic was and remains on the political plane in the U.S., but it's American special services that are puppeteering this story with sporadic information plants."

"There is not the slightest reason to raise or discuss this topic in Russia," Kucherena said.

Russia, he said, does not sell people. "The Snowden issue cannot be a bargaining chip on any level, neither political nor economic," he said, according to the news agency.

Former deputy national security adviser Juan Zarate urged the Trump administration to be cautious in accepting any Snowden offer from Russian President Vladimir Putin.

"For Russia, this would be a win-win. They've already extracted what they needed from Edward Snowden in terms of information and they've certainly used him to beat the United States over the head in terms of its surveillance and cyber activity," Zarate said.

"It would signal warmer relations and some desire for greater cooperation with the new administration, but it would also no doubt stoke controversies and cases in the U.S. around the role of surveillance, the role of the U.S. intelligence community, and the future of privacy and civil liberties in an American context.

"All of that would perhaps be music to the ears of Putin."

The White House had no comment, but the Justice Department told NBC News it would welcome the return of Snowden, who currently faces federal charges that carry a minimum of 30 years in prison. Putin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said talk about returning Snowden is "nonsense."

If he were returned to American soil, Snowden — a divisive figure in America who is seen by some as a hero and others as treasonous — would face an administration that has condemned him in the strongest terms.

"I think he's a total traitor and I would deal with him harshly," Trump said in July. "And if I were president, Putin would give him over." In October 2013, Trump tweeted: "Snowden is a spy who should be executed."

CIA Director Mike Pompeo has also called for Snowden to face American justice. "I think the proper outcome would be that he would be given a death sentence," Pompeo said last February.

Snowden was working as a contractor at a National Security Agency facility in Hawaii when he began stealing top-secret documents that he gave to journalists in 2013, exposing details of U.S. domestic surveillance programs.

After Snowden fled to Hong Kong and was charged with violating the U.S. Espionage Act, he ended up in Russia. Moscow granted him refuge and officials say his residency permit was recently extended until 2020.

In an interview streamed on Twitter in December, Snowden said being forced to return to the U.S. would be a human-rights violation but would also put to rest to accusations that he is a Russian spy.

"A lot of people have asked me: Is there going to be some kind of deal where Trump says, 'Hey look, give this guy to me as some kind of present'? Will I be sent back to the U.S., where I'll be facing a show trial?" Snowden said.

"Is this going to happen? I don't know. Could it happen? Sure. Am I worried about it? Not really, because here's the thing: I am very comfortable with the decisions that I've made. I know I did the right thing."

More than 1 million people signed a White House petition calling for then-President Obama to pardon Snowden. Snowden himself did not file an application and tweeted that Army leaker Chelsea Manning should get clemency ahead of him.
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but took no action on Snowden.

Snowden's Russian lawyer, Anatoly Kucherena, told the state-run news agency last month that his client would like to return to the United States — with no criminal charges hanging over his head.

"We hope very much that the new U.S. president would show some weighted approach to the issue and make the one and only correct decision — to stop prosecution against Edward Snowden," Kucherena said.

Zarate said there is no way to predict if Putin will deliver Snowden — or when.

"I think this is one of those rare cases where the stakes are so high, the diplomatic implications so deep, that anything can happen," he said.

"So this could be a secret diplomatic deal made in the dead of night, or it could be a weeks-in-formation deal with lawyers on all sides," he said.

"I think at the end of the day, Moscow holds the cards here."
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KIENCHIN

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Australian farms can be large and not have complete cell phone coverage.
That's right B.I.B, Australian farms can be huge, some of which can be the size of a small country and the country massive. The state of Western Australia on it's own is the size of Western Europe. Some of this farm rely either on satellite phone to keep in touch with the outside world.
 

B.I.B.

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That's right B.I.B, Australian farms can be huge, some of which can be the size of a small country and the country massive. The state of Western Australia on it's own is the size of Western Europe. Some of this farm rely either on satellite phone to keep in touch with the outside world.


Yeah we use that. Satellite internet and phone. Its expensive though, from memory the monthly contract fee is around $450 month for 50gigs off peak usage at 2mps, that's why I don't upload photos.
 

delft

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That's right B.I.B, Australian farms can be huge, some of which can be the size of a small country and the country massive. The state of Western Australia on it's own is the size of Western Europe. Some of this farm rely either on satellite phone to keep in touch with the outside world.
I now remember there is, since the '70's, a system of emergency beacons that are activating when a ship capsizes or sinks or when an aircraft goes down. It uses receivers on satellites to estimate the place of the accident but the beacon can also send its own coordinates. this can well be extended to huge farms anywhere in the World.
 
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