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kwaigonegin

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Like I said many in Asia are still wholly ignorant of the Nazis. A big part of it is that the European theatre is just not taught or talked about much in schools so most there are not cognizant of the evils of Nazi Germany.
 

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You think the money sould be better spend on Mumbai's crumbling infrastructure. Just watch a BBC documentary on Mumbai's train service and it is shocking to say the least, they continue to operate equipment that date back to the British Raj.
 
That was certainly an unfortunate and serious faux pas but to my knowledge and understanding of Asia, the evils of Nazism and Hitler is not as well propagated in Asia as in the Western hemisphere for obvious reasons.
Most Asians don't view or are conciously aware of the evils of the Nazi regime. At best they know it more from an academic standpoint and not social or emotional.
I'm pretty sure you will NEVER see schools donning IJA regalias for any function because IJN is deeply rooted in the minds of most Asians unlike Nazi Germany.
Heck when I was in Thailand a few years ago I saw a local guy wearing a Swastika inspried shirt and I'm 99.99% he isn't a member of any skinhead groups or even aware of the social stigma tied to it in western countries.

The lack of emotional antipathy towards Nazi brutality in Asia is similar to the lack of emotional antipathy towards colonialist and Imperial Japanese brutality in the West. It just doesn't hit home in the same way.
 
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and in simple words: 'technical failure' is considered to be the most likely cause of the Tu-154 crash near Sochi today (the other possible reasons could be 'pilots' mistake' or 'terror')
 

taxiya

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That was certainly an unfortunate and serious faux pas but to my knowledge and understanding of Asia, the evils of Nazism and Hitler is not as well propagated in Asia as in the Western hemisphere for obvious reasons.
Most Asians don't view or are conciously aware of the evils of the Nazi regime. At best they know it more from an academic standpoint and not social or emotional.
I'm pretty sure you will NEVER see schools donning IJA regalias for any function because IJN is deeply rooted in the minds of most Asians unlike Nazi Germany.
Heck when I was in Thailand a few years ago I saw a local guy wearing a Swastika inspried shirt and I'm 99.99% he isn't a member of any skinhead groups or even aware of the social stigma tied to it in western countries.

Not true at least in China.
The European part of WWII and massacre of Jews took pages in senior high school world history curriculum in China, at least when I was in school. The time and numbers are clearly in the book. Of course much less detail compared to European books, but then why should it?

In my time 1980s, not everyone went to senior high, so many people of that age may be ignorant of Nazi.

But, today everyone in China go through senior high, so everybody is aware of it. We are talking about everybody under 40 years old in China.

Of course, Chinese won't be emotionally connected to the tragedy, but that is same as Westerners towards Nanjing massacre.

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Like I said many in Asia are still wholly ignorant of the Nazis. A big part of it is that the European theatre is just not taught or talked about much in schools so most there are not cognizant of the evils of Nazi Germany.

Again, wrong to apply to Chinese who makes up the majority of Asian population. I am sure it is also wrong to apply to the Koreans, just like Chinese they would not leave out the Nazi's when they memorize the Japanese atrocity. Though, let's leave Japan out of the discussion.

May I ask, are you from any Asian country that does not teach (at all or not much) European theatre of WWII? You don't have to answer which country you are from if you don't feel comfortable, just tell me if your school teach the subject or not.
 

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Hsinchu school apologizes amid outrage over students' Nazi consumes
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Taipei, Dec. 24 (CNA) A high school in Hsinchu City apologized Saturday after its students dressed in costumes resembling Nazi uniforms and brandished swastika banners in a cosplay party held at the school a day earlier, triggering controversy on the Internet and drawing condemnation from Israel's representative office in Taipei.

The Hsinchu Kuang-Fu High School admitted that it failed to carefully review the students' plans of their costumes for the party, but claimed that it did not mean it supports the violence committed by the Nazis.

Nazi Germany refers to the period in German history from 1933 to 1945 when the country was under the control of Adolf Hitler, who masterminded the Holocaust, one of the most inglorious periods of modern history.

The private school said it assumed responsibility for the students' improper behavior, adding that it will improve its education and help its students to gain a broader global view.

It apologized to the public for the controversy over the Nazi costumes worn by its students.

The school's apology came after photos of some students of a class at the school dressed in costumes that looked like Nazi uniforms, wielding swastika flags and displaying Nazi tanks made of paper cartons at a cosplay event were posted on the Internet, triggering widespread criticism.

The Israel Economic and Cultural Office in Taipei, which represents Israel's interests in Taiwan in the absence of bilateral diplomatic ties, issued a statement condemning the acts by the students.

"It is deplorable and shocking" that only seven decades after the world witnessed the horrors of the Holocaust, a high school in Taiwan supports "such an outrageous action," said Asher Yarden, Israel's representative to Taiwan.

Schools should educate for tolerance and understanding among people, he said.

"We strongly condemn this tasteless occurrence and call on the Taiwanese authorities, at all levels, to initiate educational programs which would introduce the meaning of the Holocaust and teach its history and universal meaning," he said. "Israel would support such endeavors as may be necessary."

In response to the incident, Taiwan's Ministry of Education said it has formed a task force that will visit the school to look into the incident and assist in improving its educational programs.

Education Minister Pan Wen-chung (潘文忠) also issued an apology for the incident, urging all schools in Taiwan to learn a lesson from the incident.

The ministry said it will impose punishments on the school for its "administrative negligence of duty" and that it will cut its subsidies for the private school.

(By Lu Kang-chun, Chen Chih-chung and Elaine Hou)
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Bunch of human scum.
 

taxiya

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The fact is it would be foolish to put an emphasis on what the Nazis did when they're are so many other acts of monstrosity around the world including Asia. Let's not forget the legacy of anti-Chinese pogroms by the West. They wanted to rid Chinese influence in Asia just like people wanted to rid Europe of Jewish influence. There were 500,000 Chinese that were slaughtered in less than a month in Indonesia in 1965 because the US and Australia were pressuring the government to deal with communists in the country. Are they going to say Chinese lives are less valuable and should be ignored so make way for the more important lives? Just imagine some outsider comes to Asia trying to teach how this group was treated the worst in their opinion so everyone should ignore all the others? That's why there's not an emphasis on what the Nazis did because it wasn't unique to many in Asia. You can imagine how something like that would backfire. I remember talking to someone who believed Buddhists should stop using the "swastika" symbol but he's not going to publicly push for something like that because it might actually stir up more anti-Semitism.
No way for that.
Some maniac in Europe stole and tarnished something from the world does not make the world guilty of his act, nor give up that thing.
Don't hate a rock, hate the killer using the rock.
 

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Quite a significant, if one-off development where the US allowed any UN resolution critical of Israel to pass.

The Israeli reaction has been 'interesting' to put it mildly, as has the western media coverage of it. Especially when contrasted against all the self-righteous pomposity directed against China after the artibrition ruling against China, which was widely misreported as an UN body when it was just some jumped up side show panel that wasn't even a real court, but this is the UNSC, the ultimate authority on international laws.
 

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Quite a significant, if one-off development where the US allowed any UN resolution critical of Israel to pass.

The Israeli reaction has been 'interesting' to put it mildly, as has the western media coverage of it. Especially when contrasted against all the self-righteous pomposity directed against China after the artibrition ruling against China, which was widely misreported as an UN body when it was just some jumped up side show panel that wasn't even a real court, but this is the UNSC, the ultimate authority on international laws.

What the Israelis are doing is far worse than what the PRC did in the SCS island building and that it has been going on for decades. So with that said, where are ALL the hostilities against the Israelis by the Western media? I guess because they are "the chosen people of God" therefore are the exception to the UN rule and resolution. :rolleyes::mad::(
 
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