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[siegecrossbow]

There's a difference between construction companies violating building codes and the same companies conforming to the codes, but were shipped inferior material from Chinese steel manufacturers that "passed" their own quality control. An example of that is The Oakland Bay Bridge building inspectors discovered some of the so-called quality steel from Chinese manufacturers didn't meet specs.

From Taiwan news reports, it look as if the building companies willfully violated building codes, and I'm sure the authorities will get to the bottom of it, as they collect more information and evidence.

I was being sarcastic lol.

 

[Jeff Head]

The whole force has been corrupt at least over the last half century.

Delft, I will have to ask you to not make such blanket statements.

This is demonstrably false.

I personally know some Chicago police officers and they are DEFINITELY NOT CORRUPT.

So please, even though there is most definitely corruption, do not make such blanket statements.

 

[Equation]

Check this out.

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I love how other Asians think they're different... not!

And yet still NO Taiwanese leaders to greet the wounded or grieve the victims families or visit the site after all this time?

 

[Equation]

There's a difference between construction companies violating building codes and the same companies conforming to the codes, but were shipped inferior material from Chinese steel manufacturers that "passed" their own quality control. An example of that is The Oakland Bay Bridge building inspectors discovered some of the so-called quality steel from Chinese manufacturers didn't meet specs.

From Taiwan news reports, it look as if the building companies willfully violated building codes, and I'm sure the authorities will get to the bottom of it, as they collect more information and evidence.

Building was built in 1994 long before the propaganda about "poor Chinese steel manufacturing" became a useful excuse.

 

[solarz]

And yet still NO Taiwanese leaders to greet the wounded or grieve the victims families or visit the site after all this time?

Isn't Ma touring a SCS island or something? Anyway, what does he care? He's out of the office in a couple of weeks.

Mean while, not sure what the new President-Elect is doing.

 

[Hytenxic]

Hong Kong Police Clash With Rioters in Shopping District

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Scores of police and an unknown number of rioters were injured in Hong Kong’s biggest outbreak of violence since the 2014 pro-democracy uprising, putting the city’s security forces to the test with thousands of revelers expected to descend on its waterfront for a Tuesday evening fireworks gala.

While the streets were clear and calm by the afternoon, Police Commissioner Stephen Lo Wai-chung told reporters that officers would remain vigilant during celebrations to mark Chinese New Year, one of the most important events on Hong Kong’s calendar. While not expecting a repeat of the previous night’s violence, more police will be stationed in the area and take “resolute enforcement action” against any illegal acts, he said.

Police fired warning shots in Kowloon’s Mong Kok district early Tuesday after an effort by food and hygiene officials to clear illegal food stalls morphed into a riot. Protesters wielded self-made weapons, set fires and hurled bricks and bottles, acting district commander Yau Siu-kei told reporters in an earlier briefing. Lo said almost 90 officers were injured, some with cuts and head wounds, and 54 people were arrested.


Kowloon and areas along the waterfront including the city’s congested downtown area will be flooded with people this evening, with a fireworks display over Victoria Harbour expected to last about half an hour from 8 p.m.

‘Umbrella Movement’
The clashes were the most violent since the “Umbrella Movement” of 2014, where protesters paralyzed downtown Hong Kong for more than two months to demand the right to pick the city’s leader.

Lo repeatedly blamed “violent radicals” for inciting Tuesday’s violence. “Police strongly condemn the unlawful behavior of these protesters,” he said. “In this incident, it was discovered that some people transported supplies by vehicles for use by violent radicals at the scene.”

Mong Kok is a densely-populated lower-income area covering less than a square mile on the north side of Victoria Harbour, often packed with tourists. Batons and pepper spray initially failed to stop protesters from blocking part of Nathan Road, a main shopping thoroughfare, though roads later reopened.

Hong Kong’s police force has drawn criticism for a heavy-handed response to previous street protests. On Tuesday, they defended their actions as necessary to maintaining order and defending their own.

“The situation ran out of control and became a riot,” Yau said. “As police officers saw their lives under serious threat, without any other alternatives, two gunshots were fired as a warning.”

Hong Kong Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying condemned the actions of what he called “mobs.”

“The people can see for themselves the seriousness of the situation,” Leung said in a televised news conference, referring to video footage of the events. “This is clearly a riot, and the police haven’t ruled out this was premeditated,” he said. “The police have strict guidance to follow when using weapons.”

‘Organized Activities’
While no group claimed responsibility for the riot, Secretary of Security Lai Tung-kwok said at the same briefing “there are indications that there were organized activities.”

Members of the Hong Kong Indigenous group, which was earlier reported by some local media to have been the main agitators, went to the aid of the food-stall vendors but weren’t involved in the subsequent riot, Wong Toi-yeung, a convener for the organization, told local broadcaster RTHK.

The group, an organization advocating greater autonomy for Hong Kong, posted a notice on Facebook shortly after midnight Tuesday calling for a march in Mong Kok in support of Edward Leung Tin-kei, a legislative council candidate it put up for election. In the post, the group called on supporters to come equipped with face-masks, water and protective gear. Leung was arrested, it said later in a separate post.

Violence
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were kick-started when student leaders stormed the premises of the government headquarters and drew as many as 100,000 people after police used tear gas. It became the biggest challenge to China’s rule over Hong Kong since it resumed sovereignty over the former British colony in 1997.

Mong Kok saw some of the most violent clashes of the 2014 protests.

Given the events of 2014 and the government’s refusal to engage in dialogue with the opposition it is not surprising to see a gradual tendency toward more dramatic tactics by protesters, said James Rice, an assistant professor of philosophy and law at Hong Kong’s Lingnan University.

“Moving from peaceful protests to any of violence is regrettable but given the government’s total inflexibility on democratic reforms, and given their constant refusal to even engage in any dialogue with an entire generation of young idealistic people, it was inevitable to see a gradual tendency toward ever more militant attitudes and tactics,” he said.

If you look around the net for videos, we can see that the HK police or even the riot police either can't deal or won't deal with these rioters. If things escalate any further, I hope the PAP steps in and straighten these rioters out.

 

[MwRYum]

Hong Kong Police Clash With Rioters in Shopping District

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If you look around the net for videos, we can see that the HK police or even the riot police either can't deal or won't deal with these rioters. If things escalate any further, I hope the PAP steps in and straighten these rioters out.

Better be sooner, and better still take a page out of the Israeli book: take no prisoner.

You know what I mean. It's about bloody time.

 

[MwRYum]

And in case you people think this is not serious enough, those goons whats to go further...much further..

Here's a report from local news website:

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旺角暴亂：暴徒網上吹雞　今晚捉警察打記者
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旺角昨晚暴亂過後，再有組織於網上吹雞再上街(右上)。(資料圖片/fb「全民勇武 緊握護盾」)

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旺角暴亂過後，有組織及網友繼續在網上吹雞，趁今晚舉行新春煙花匯演再次發起行動上街搞事，形容:「尖東今晚放煙花，需要大量警力維持秩序，所以要食魚旦 (蛋)，今晚係好機會。」表明行動目標是「捉警察」、「打記者」，更列出多點緊急動員的注意事項，提醒有關人士在行動中要有「足夠裝備」、「記得遮面」、 「以武制暴」等，直指大眾市民點睇已經毫不重要，他們根本不需要市民認同云云。

WhatsApp則流傳今晚行動的15點注意事項，提醒參 與行動的人士「唔好將任何光環比任何組織住，會出事」。而在行動中穿過的一切衣物用具，亦要全面銷毀，「所有影片必須Backup(備份)」。有關 WhatsApp更提及在旺角暴亂中，「今次有試捉差佬，但未成功」、「燃燒汽車失敗」更指有記者現場幫警察，因此今晚行動會「捉警察」、「打記者」；建 制派亦成為目標，「民建聯Banner係拎黎(嚟)燒」。

另外，號召行動的網友更廣傳一份「專業指引」，提及行動人士可先將通渠粉放入膠樽，再加水引發氣體膨脹，然後向警員投擲；更提醒不使用玻璃樽，要用膠樽，使用時要「拎實樽蓋」，並留意膠樽「未必會即時爆」，同時要謹記用眼罩保護雙眼。

Here's the simple version:
The anarchists are rallying for a bigger riot tonight with more organized violence (with hint of cop-killing), with guidelines for anyone who what to join the gang, including IED chemical weapons.

So? I won't shed a tear if the PLA come gut 'em all with lead and bayonets tonight...

 

[plawolf]

Hong Kong Police Clash With Rioters in Shopping District

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If you look around the net for videos, we can see that the HK police or even the riot police either can't deal or won't deal with these rioters. If things escalate any further, I hope the PAP steps in and straighten these rioters out.

Pretty much textbook western interventionist strategy

Step 1) invest in and nurture anti-government forces and factions, usually through some organisation with 'democracy' and/or 'freedom' in their name

Step 2) provide encouragement and publicity through media outlets and government statements to incite and sustain mass displays of anti-government sentiment

Step 3) indirectly encourage and legitimise violence against police and security forces by minimally covering any such instances and provide no commentary or point the finger of blame at the police for triggering the violence. At the same time, giving disproportionately prominent coverage of any force police used on protestors and either implying or outright accusing the police of excessive violence, irrespective of whether the degree of force used was justified, with loaded terms like 'crack down' and 'suppression' thrown in for good measure (usually done by acting as the mouthpiece of protestors, reporting all their wild claims as if it was fact, with zero fact checking, challenges or moderating commentary).

4) when violence against police and public property gets so out of hand that police are forced to use deadly force, up the rhetoric and political pressure and lay the foundations for RTP intervention and/or sanctions.

 

[MwRYum]

Pretty much textbook western interventionist strategy

Step 1) invest in and nurture anti-government forces and factions, usually through some organisation with 'democracy' and/or 'freedom' in their name

Step 2) provide encouragement and publicity through media outlets and government statements to incite and sustain mass displays of anti-government sentiment

Step 3) indirectly encourage and legitimise violence against police and security forces by minimally covering any such instances and provide no commentary or point the finger of blame at the police for triggering the violence. At the same time, giving disproportionately prominent coverage of any force police used on protestors and either implying or outright accusing the police of excessive violence, irrespective of whether the degree of force used was justified, with loaded terms like 'crack down' and 'suppression' thrown in for good measure (usually done by acting as the mouthpiece of protestors, reporting all their wild claims as if it was fact, with zero fact checking, challenges or moderating commentary).

4) when violence against police and public property gets so out of hand that police are forced to use deadly force, up the rhetoric and political pressure and lay the foundations for RTP intervention and/or sanctions.

Then we're now irreversibly in step 4. We're already in hell now anyway, so just as well send in the PLA to get this crap over and done with.