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Blackstone

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Solid analysis of Chinese steal-copy-innovate from the the USNI.

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Historically, China has been a great innovator contributing inventions such as gunpowder, paper and the compass to human advancement. However, China has earned an international reputation in recent decades as being the home of a prolific copycat culture.

The Chinese have become proficient at cloning products ranging from designer handbags and the latest smartphones to movies and alcoholic beverages. Fake Apple stores, counterfeit KFC restaurants and imitation IKEA big-box outlets dot the Chinese landscape. They have even
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Some Western observers believe this cultural attitude towards imitation is rooted in Confucianism where followers traditionally learned by replicating masterworks and then tried to improve upon them.

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Chinese reinterpretation of Nike sandals, Logo

The fact that the Chinese commonly refer to today’s imitation products as “Shanzhai” indicates that they recognize the dubious nature of the current practice. The term
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and was originally applied to pirate factories producing counterfeit goods in remote areas beyond the reach of regulatory control.

The copycat business is no longer restricted to outlying lawless regions. It has entered the mainstream and been embraced by government officials who seem content to allow other nations to develop products and technology which they can then acquire legitimately through licensing or illegitimately through counterfeiting and espionage. This approach allows China to stay competitive on the world stage while saving them the time and money it would cost to develop their own products.

An industry in which Chinese cloning has excelled to a disconcerting degree is the manufacture of weapon systems. China’s expanding military and growing assertiveness has been bolstered by weapons cloned from the arsenals of other countries. Bleeding edge U.S. aircraft including the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and Northrop Grumman X-47B unmanned combat air vehicle (UCAV) have Chinese counterparts that are remarkably similar. Some of the technology used in these designs was almost certainly acquired through a vigorous Chinese cyber spying campaign.
 

Blackstone

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U.S. Defense officials have stated that Chinese military hackers undertaking
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. The sensitive technical data that is known to have been compromised is now evident in the latest versions of several Chinese weapons.

Officials also suspect that China has managed to obtain valuable technical advances by making backroom deals with U.S. allies that bought American weapons. It is for this reason that the U.S. decided not to export the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor stealth fighter.

It is not only American weapon designs and technology that have been stolen and replicated by the Chinese. Russia has at times served as China’s unwitting research and development department. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia was in need of money and held a fire sale of its state of the art Sukhoi Su-27 fighter. China bought two dozen of the fighters but later negotiated for a license to assemble additional planes domestically using key components imported from Russia. Within a few years China claimed that the fighter no longer met their needs and canceled the contract. To the fury of the Russians, the Chinese soon debuted the indigenously built and equipped Shenyang J-11B fighter that looks identical to the Su-27.

Russia continued to use Chinese money from arms sales to develop new technology, which China then stole. After several deals in which the Chinese quickly reversed engineered Russian weapons to produce their own versions, Russia finally wised up and began to reject Chinese requests to purchase single examples of their most advanced systems on a “trial” basis.

To add salt to Russia’s wounds, China is now exporting knockoff weapons to the international market and undercutting Russia’s own arms trade in the process. But like a counterfeit Louis Vuitton handbag with a faulty zipper, Chinese clone weapons may be more style over performance.

“I think the big issue with all Chinese weapons – including copies of Western equipment – is that they remain untested in combat,” Eric Wertheim author of
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and a naval analyst said.
“We just don’t know how they will perform, so while they may be far less expensive than their western counterparts, many countries are understandably reluctant to take the risk of acquiring products that haven’t passed the ultimate test of combat. I expect that some of these systems are likely to perform as advertised while others may significantly underperform compared to their western counterparts.”

Although Chinese clone weapons may not yet posses the quality and capabilities of the originals, several U.S. military and industry officials have expressed concern that the ongoing sophisticated cyber espionage campaign will allow China to rapidly improve their arsenal and even
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plawolf

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Solid analysis of Chinese steal-copy-innovate from the the USNI.

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I see nothing but the same old biased and often totally wrong stereotypes and clichés while ignoring mountains of evidence to the contrary.

That piece has zero solid evidence, not even many good examples in fact, and utterly based on assumptions, resumptions and generalisations.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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I saw that article, and Considered posting it for a millionth of a second but decided it would fit in my category of flame bate.
Man finds out absorbed twin is genetic father of his child

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STANFORD, Calif., Oct. 27 (UPI) -- A Washington man who failed a paternity test for his child discovered a condition called human chimera led to his unborn twin being the child's genetic father.

Barry Starr, a geneticist at California's Stanford University, said
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the 34-year-old man who failed a paternity test after he and his wife discovered their child did not share a blood type with either parent.


The fertility clinic that helped the couple become pregnant insisted the man's semen sample was the one used to impregnate his wife, so the man took a genetic ancestry test, which found the man to be the child's uncle.

Starr said the result was due to his being a human chimera -- the result of the man absorbing cells from a deceased twin during the early stages of their mother's pregnancy. The man's sperm was found to be a 10 percent match to the infant, while the genes in his saliva -- which were used for the paternity tests -- were not a match.

The geneticist said the case marked the first known instance of paternity tests being fooled by a human chimera.

"Even geneticists are blown away by this," Starr
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Karen Keegan of Boston previously made a similar discovery in 2002 when she discovered her ovaries held genes from an absorbed twin that passed those genes on to two of her sons.

"Chimera reports are very rare, but they are real," Starr said.

He suggested reports of such incidents could become more common as more people receive assistance from fertility clinics, which provide treatments that increase the chances of multiple births.
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I heard about the Boston woman before, basically the cells that made up her ovaries were those of her unborn sister, So when she had a paternity test for her child. The DNA swab from her mouth did not match the one from her child. She almost lost custody and her Partner until a Doctor ran a second test using DNA samples from across her body sure enough they found a match.
 

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I saw that article, and Considered posting it for a millionth of a second but decided it would fit in my category of flame bate.
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I heard about the Boston woman before, basically the cells that made up her ovaries were those of her unborn sister, So when she had a paternity test for her child. The DNA swab from her mouth did not match the one from her child. She almost lost custody and her Partner until a Doctor ran a second test using DNA samples from across her body sure enough they found a match.

I wanted to post a Maurice Povich clip here but decided that doing so would be bad taste.
 
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