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Blackstone

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I once believed the Beltway Mandarins when they said US wasn't trying to contain China, not because I trust them, I don't, but because I gave them too much credit for being rational and geopolitical realists. I was wrong.

Wow, this Clinton email: Blumenthal: "Have a good trip building the de facto China containment alliance."
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Jeff Head

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GreenestGDP, you are on thin ice here on SD with the posts you are making, particularly with such comments:

"Soon, those affluent Chinese will learn this truth, when the Hot war start."

You were warned earlier today about posts...since this one was made in the same time frame, I will simply add it to that warning. But be on notice...this will not be accepted here.

This is not an anti-west or anti-US, site. It is a Sino and World Defense news site.

Take the propaganda and ideological rhetoric some place else...not here.

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plawolf

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I once believed the Beltway Mandarins when they said US wasn't trying to contain China, not because I trust them, I don't, but because I gave them too much credit for being rational and geopolitical realists. I was wrong.

Wow, this Clinton email: Blumenthal: "Have a good trip building the de facto China containment alliance."

That's hardly news to anyone who has been paying attention to modern events or history.

The US is top dog, and will do anything and everything in its power to remain so, or at least factions within its military and political machine will. Its what top dogs have always done in history.

However, America is going about it in a very illogical, disjointed, uncoordinated, and sometimes downright self-contradictory way. I think that is mainly because there are conflicting views and beliefs between successive administrations, and often between departments and elements within the same administration.

The first and most unforgivable strategic mistake American governments keep making is automatically thinking China is out to get them, and that everything China plans or does is ultimately designed to undermine and harm American interests.

Thus, rather than try to find out what China's real strategic aims and ambitions might be, by allowing China the room to make choices and base their assessments, analysis and strategic choices on how China acts and behaves, America seems terrified of the idea of allowing China to do anything of its own choosing, and feels like it has to micromanage and/or counter everything China does.

A great big part of the reason why western analysis cannot get a clear reading on Chinese strategic aims and objectives is because they have had almost no opportunity to observe what China would do when given the freedom to choose any course it wants. Almost always, Chinese choices and actions are constrained and/or influenced by something America or one of its regional allies has done or said.

That, and the fact that they automatically treat any and everything the Chinese government says with instinctive distrust.

So, if you cannot observe what someone does if allowed to choose and automatically discounts everything they say, is it any wonder you cannot get a good feel for their character and intentions?

Rather than give China the space and freedom to make choices and only reacting to the "bad" ones and rewarding the "good" ones as a means of influencing and shaping Chinese intentions and future choices, America is pretty much trying to slap China down every time it does anything.

The only belief and behaviour that kind of (mis)treatment encourages is not favourable to America or the world order it stands for.

It is still not too late to pull back from that precipice, but time is surely running out.
 

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I once believed the Beltway Mandarins when they said US wasn't trying to contain China, not because I trust them, I don't, but because I gave them too much credit for being rational and geopolitical realists. I was wrong.

Wow, this Clinton email: Blumenthal: "Have a good trip building the de facto China containment alliance."

While it is in America's interest to prevent hegemony in Asia (could be India, Russia, etc.), it isn't in her interest to actively hedge in and seclude any state. Both Kissinger and Brzezinski warned against the Cold War model of isolating any incipient power because #1) it is no longer realistic to do so in an increasingly globalist world and #2) doing so roils nationalist sentiments within the targeted states and #3) it explicitly presents the U.S. as a meddling (in a negative manner) power to the international community at large (not that any one cares about that any more).

The correct course of action for the U.S. would be to play the various Asian powers (China, Japan, India, etc.) against each other instead of taking an overt stance backing any power against the other (exceptions reserved for hardcore allies like Japan and South Korea). Ideally, the presence of a strong American presence in Asia should check aggression between the various states instead of instigating and fostering them, which appears to be the confounding course of action currently taken.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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Again with the Political OT! You want Political On Topic I'll give you Political On Topic!
Chewbacca Arrested While Campaigning For Darth Vader In Ukraine
The Force wasn't with him.
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In one of the most surreal election scenes anywhere in the galaxy,
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The person dressed as the legendary Wookie was reportedly accused of violating a law that forbids campaigning on election day.
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Одесса. Ничего необычного, просто Чубакку повязали за незаконную агитацию.
[Odessa. Nothing unusual, just Čubakku them for illegal campaigning.]
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Chewbacca even appeared in court, looking just a little worse for the wear:

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Chewbacca in court after being nabbed for illegal campaigning.
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RT said the incident happened in Odessa, and that Chewbacca was fined the equivalent of $7.50. However, he told the media he was unable to pay "
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The Daily Dot reports that
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, as part of the country's Internet Party, which has a history of campaigns themed to "Star Wars" including several candidates for various offices named Darth Vader.

On Friday, an artist
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In a unrelated story.
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