what do you want to know about PRC?

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KYli

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adeptitus said:
You can have 2 persons agree to a "historical fact", and have completely opposite views on it. This kind of debate is impossible to resolve, except maybe agreeing to disagree.

In the US, the education/academia tends to lean to the left ("liberal bias"). I attended HS in the US and can only think of 1 teacher who was a "right winger". Most of the others are definately on the left and pro-socialist/government subsidies. As matter of fact I just had an e-mail exchange with my old HS teacher on the importance of "money management education" to HS students. This was her comment:

As far as "personal money management" goes, this is a great idea, as long as you are indeed upper-middle class, 5-6 figure income, well-educated, and have the requisite "personal money" to manage! Unfortunately, this is NOT the description of the majority of our country, urban, suburban and rural citizens. You need to get out of Orange County for a while and see how the real world lives!

@_@ I'm sure most of you would realize teaching money management skills to HS students is to prepare them for the future, and definately not intended as a solution to ADULTS that are already in poverty. Yet she rabidly shift toward the urban/rural poor and calling them the "majority of our country" as the "real world" like a starved seagull diving after a clam on the beach.

Now imagine what kind of "history" education she gives to her students. LoL. You can give 2 teachers the EXACT SAME textbook, and get completely different teachings from them.
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Agree, US education tends to leaning toword the left. I guess it really has to do with there are so many ethnic and reglious groups, and the teachers tend not to offense anyone(As matter of facts, I think most teachers in world are leaning to left). There are more right wing teachers in the southern state and rural area, and most of the private schools are probaly leaning toward right.

It is difficult to agree with histrical facts, because each person or group might have differents opinion and agendas. You will be rather lucky if you could get some agreement, the sad part is most of time the results will be extreme from each side.
 
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lookandsay

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jwangyue said:
I think I can answer this. Apart from a few of the very old people who lived through the revolution times, most people's ideology today is Money or Capitalism. People are judged by their earnings and poessions rather than their revolutionary ideals. I think that is a pretty good indication. :china:
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yes,it's right quitely.

bd popeye said:
I have 4 "kids" All adults now....In California where I lived they have a sex/human/race eduction class in the 6th grade. I told them if they did not undertsand anything about the class I would answer them...My ex-wife talked to my daughter about sex. I talked to my sons as need be...Ain't easy but I did it....

You are right ..everyone is different!..
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hi,popeye:
i live in the mainland of china.i have a son about 10 years old.i want to know how do you told your son about sex.
thank you!
 
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crobato

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Best cities:

Xiamen, Chengdu, Dalian, Hangzhou, Shanghai. Xiamen and Dalian tends to be the cleanest.


The bad.

1. Some places are so polluted you can't breathe.

2. Some people try to cheat you if they see you as a foreigner.

3. Some people are jealous of you if you are overseas chinese and may try to cheat you.

4. The spitting!

5. TV is so boring at night.

6. Some food is too oily.

7. I hate seeing all sorts of animals being served up in the restaurants.

8. Some people argue and fight loudly and rudely in public.

9. Don't pick a fight with old people, even old women! They are a lot stronger than you think. They can haul a bag of rice up a 300 step hill without breaking a sweat!


The good.

1. The sights. Many historical places to go, lots of beautiful scenery.

2. Generally great food.

3. Many beautiful girls

4. I love those Urals type bikes they use as tricycles. These are copies of Russian Urals which are copies of WWII German BMW bikes. They are the true workhorses of the Chinese farmer.

5. Great prices.

6. You can buy literally everything there.

7. The sense of dynamicism and sheer energy.

8. The places are always constantly changing and improving. When I first came there, it's hard to find a good toilet. Now they make the toilets.

9. I love the architecture and skyrises.

10. You can buy lots of nice magazines in the streets. Do you ever wonder where many of the military pictures comes from? They came from military magazines sold in the street side.

11. Very safe. Little crime.
 
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KYli

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Crobato, I would mostly agree except the last part. The crime is increasing in a lot of cities and espeacially in the south.
 
T-U-P

T-U-P

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Although I am a chinese, I have to agree with you on these. Most northern
Chinese cities are dirty and dusty, especially Beijing. I remembered when I first came from Wuhan (a southern city) to Beijing, I felt so disapointed. In about half a month, I could not see a blue sky. I had to wipe off my desks and computers almost every day in Fall because of the dusts.
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and this is when i come and say go to shenzhen. it's a fairly new city, started developing in the late 80's and unlike beijing and shanghai, it has a very short history. it used to be a fishing village, but most of it is gone now. so basically it's a brand new city started building in end of the 80's. there're not as much rusty and old buildings there and i actually saw blue skies when i stayed in there during the two past summers. and btw, there're just as much dust here in vancouver. i wiped my computer 2 days ago and now it's filled with dust again.
 
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curse

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This is on-off topic topic, but does anyone have a estimate figure of the cost of a round trip flight to china for... 3 week vacation and enough for a nice hotel and such and what do to. I really want to go and visit the places, I like the "saving money" part most of all. If yall have any tips for a traveler to China that would great!
 
bd popeye

bd popeye

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hi,popeye:
i live in the mainland of china.i have a son about 10 years old.i want to know how do you told your son about sex.
thank you!
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Actually it was easy for me because the school system in San Diego, California has a one week camp that teaches the kids about sex and other human relations. Race ,cutural etc. the kids are about 11-12 years old when they go. Before they go a parent can go over the teachings with the child...That made it easy for me. plus in the US there are so many books that you can buy to teach your kids about sex. Books that a child can read and understand. That too was a big help! 10 I think is a little young. 12 would be better....
 
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Aerodriver

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Chinas Civil aviation is booming as I am sure you will know. It will continue to grow and a similar if not slightly faster pace than the economy. The three private airlines that have started up, while in the black, are not able to operate as they would like. Due to government directives (I think protecting the state owned airlines) they are not able to implement a true low cost/budget airline model. This will change over the next few years and it will cause a huge amount of trouble for the state run, not efficient airlines. Another problem is the pilot shortage and lack of local training facilities. The is a new very large flight school near Beijing but most training still takes place in America. They can not accept a huge influx of foreign pilots because unless they speak Chinese they are restricted in where they can fly, also even if they can speak Chinese they are restricted from some airports.
I don’t really notice a buzz at airports anymore, but I do at major train stations, although this is more to do with the number of people travelling than a cultural thing. Again I don’t think things are slow in Europe, I think things on the whole happen faster, but because there are more people doing it or more of a certain thing happening in china it seems that there is more energy.
I'd rather not say who I fly for - for obvious reasons.

KYIi, I refer you to point 6. Chinese find it very hard to take a criticism and always think they have to defend china. You can not defend against my personal opinion I live here and to me my points 100% are true (most expats have similar views). Chinese people often try to deflect a criticism by saying other people do it, like when you said "Spitting is disgusting but China is not the only country have this problem" you are trying to defend it by saying other countries do it. I was comparing China to western countries as I was asked to, no western country has a spitting problem and yes other countries do it but it does not make it right. The same id true for most of your points.

Western history books do have a bias, but if you look hard enough you can find books that tell both sides of the story, and you can make your own conclusions, this free speech is not available in China.

On the issue of dust it might have been better to say dust/soot.
 
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lookandsay

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crobato said:
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9. Don't pick a fight with old people, even old women! They are a lot stronger than you think. They can haul a bag of rice up a 300 step hill without breaking a sweat!
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It's a joke.:rofl:



thanks a lot for popeye's answer.maybe i can buy some books to teach my kid about sex.
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KYli

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Aerodriver said:
KYIi, I refer you to point 6. Chinese find it very hard to take a criticism and always think they have to defend china. You can not defend against my personal opinion I live here and to me my points 100% are true (most expats have similar views). Chinese people often try to deflect a criticism by saying other people do it, like when you said "Spitting is disgusting but China is not the only country have this problem" you are trying to defend it by saying other countries do it. I was comparing China to western countries as I was asked to, no western country has a spitting problem and yes other countries do it but it does not make it right. The same id true for most of your points.

Western history books do have a bias, but if you look hard enough you can find books that tell both sides of the story, and you can make your own conclusions, this free speech is not available in China.

On the issue of dust it might have been better to say dust/soot.
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Well, I knew here in USA has a spitting problem, off course in comparison to China is very minor. But I am willing to take it back, Chinese people should stop spitting because it is disgusting period:eek: .

I never said that China has free speech, but it is not as bad as you think. People do tend to know the both sides of the story, and have a very different of opinions. I do agree that Western history books have more informations and opinions, but the government and media also are trying as much as possible to influence your ideology as early age as possible. After awhile in West, I will conclude that in the end of day there aren't that much different of thinking in most people for the ideaology. Most people just take it as it is.

I strongly agree that China is extrmely polluted, but I just want to point out there are some great cities which are less polluted. Eventhrough it is rather very few of them.

I do not have problem for people to critising China, if what they said is true and informative. Even you do live in China, it does not mean what you say is true because it is just your personal opionions. What you say about Most Expats have a similar views are just crap, so some people agree with your views give you the right to say you are correct. I would probaly find tons of people who will agree with me, so does it mean I am never wrong:roll: .

I do agree with a lot of things you said, but I seriously did not agree with some others. These does not make me defensive about China, it is call different of opinions. Most people in the West only used One Single System to judge things for right or wrong, but they never took in the perspective of differnet cultural and ideology of dfferent countires. The world is not White or black, so please do not think that you have the moral ground. China do not need to change to fit your perspecive of world, but for the better of chinese. Sometime you might see things unacceptable, but it might be perfectly ok for others.

Lastly, IT is not only chinese who will defend their coutry, every person in the world will defend their countries without hesitate if their country were critising wrongly. And do not give me BS about I am denfensive for This One.:p .
 
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