what do you want to know about PRC?

silverpike

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bd popeye said:
I have some questions...As most of you know I'm not Chinese..

1. Can any citizen of the PRC establish a church of his own choice reguardless of religion?

well, i do not think you can just establish a church of your own in china, unless you got a ok form the government. but you can easily estabalished a 'underground' reglion, and the CCP doesn't really care as long as you don't try to spread anti-government idea. that's how FaLunGong group expanded before the government announce them as a cult.
the things may change a little after FLG riot. govenment defintely will be more strict on reglious matter now i think.

bd popeye said:
2. Can any citizen of the PRC buy a home?

of course we can, otherwise where we could live? on street?:D actually, you can buy as many home as you like as long as you have the money. nowadays, more chinese choose to get a installment plan since the house/apartment price is ridiculous high!:mad:
PS. in 2006, the chinese government forbid all the estate agent to build villas, since they consume more land.

bd popeye said:
3. Can any citizen buy a car?

of course we can, chinese automoblie production has just became the second-largest in the world one month ago. my family currently own two cars, my father drive a toyota,and my mother drive a mazada, although i strongly support the idea of boycott japanese product,they do not listen to me:mad:


bd popeye said:
4. Is the internet as "free" (open) as it is in the USA or does the PRC government censor some sites?

no chinese internet is not as 'free' as America's, censorship is strict those days!(actually one of my friend's adult webpage has just been blockade yesterday! ) anti-chinese government webpage and pornographic webpage are blockade for chinese users. but there are some softwares that could crack CCP's 'fire wall'.
chinese internet user is currently the second largest in number.over 100 milion chinese people using internet everyday, internet is international, that's something the CCP could not possibiliy gain fully control, the idea of chinese people being 'brainwash' by 'western propaganda' really scare them.
but if you ever visit china,just try talk to the ordinary people, you will find out that this censorship is acutally quite useless, their information accessibility is no less than rest of the world.

bd popeye said:
5. Can any citizen of the PRC stand on any "street corner" and and say anti-government sayings ina non threating manner?
why? it a pretty senseless and a stupid thing to do. the economy is booming, many people are getting rich. no one will trade them all just because the USA tell them the CCP is evil!;) china needs to be industrialized, the people need to earn more money, as long as CCP is still doing the right job, why do we want a revolution?
ok, back to your question,if you saying anti-govenment saying on the street, i don't know, you might end up getting some attentions and then policeman might come and ask you to stop. they are not going to arrest you unless you doing something 'too much'.
i am not defending CCP's reputation here, and i am not denying china is still lack of freedom, all i am saying here is,the people's everyday life in china is no different from people who live in UK or US(i don't see people say anti-govenment saying on the street in UK everyday,why chinese should do that?:confused: ),we are not bunch of slaves that driven by the government like some western media's horrific describation!
 

bd popeye

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Thank you for your answers. I'm just have long been intrested in what's going on in the PRC.

I do really think there are more internet users in the PRC than anywhere eles. I'm sure I read that somewhere. I can understand the PRC government cracking down on porn..porn is sick!!!. Whatever else they do ..well it's their country they can run it as they see fit.

You cleared some stuff up for me reguarding the purcahse of homes and auto's .I thought only certain citizens could purchase these items. I was wrong about that.

Thanks again!
 

Gollevainen

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well as i someone already managed to awnser the poppys questions i undeleted them. I tought that they might hold bit too much tension in them but it seems that we are just fine....

anyway a good topic in general:china:
 

T-U-P

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petty officer1 said:
Go check those word on your English-Chinese dictionary.

Military Tank Jet Army Navy Air force Ship Missle Submarine
lol, just because he wants to learn english doesn't mean his english is this bad...

but you can easily estabalished a 'underground' reglion, and the CCP doesn't really care as long as you don't try to spread anti-government idea.
i wouldn't call them underground, they're just unofficial. and you're right, pro-government religions are always welcome. as for the buying house part, i've heard (haven't experienced it myself) that you only own the land that your house is on for a certain number of years (99 i think), then the land goes back to the government, not your offsprings. at least that's what i heard, but since im not 99 years old yet, i don't know if it's true or not.
 

silverpike

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SampanViking said:
Hello again Silverpike

As an older person, I am very interested in the effects and experience of living through a period of rapid change and development. I would be interested in reading from you a little bit a personal bio (your general age group and where you live) plus a personal perspective of living in a rapidly changing society and how your perceptions vary from those of your older family members. Is it disorientating to see areas you have known all your life, changed beyond recognition? do you see the future as optimistic and exciting, or do you find it just a little bit scary? you know that kind of thing.

No need to rush - take a few weeks if necessary. Who knows, I might be able to find a home for a really good work, beyond this forum;)

well , it really might take few weeks, the country's change that i have witness is already enormous! and i was just bron in 80's, my father wintness everything that china has gone throught from cultural revolution untill now, he would cry if you ask him about his feeling of this era;)

well, my hometwon is a northern coastal city called Qingdao, in Shandong province, it's certainly more traditional compare to cities like shanghai and beijing.

when i was in primary school, that's was earily 90s, i remeber the city was so different. there are barely any nice buildings, the best part of the city is the remain german villas by the seaside from the colonial time. cars are rare, and i have no idea what's a motorway is.;) bicycle is the main transportation, and there are buses. wagons are common, in the summer, the farmer will drive the wagon to the city sell watermelons. i was always excited to see the horses, but bad thing about it, is the horse wil leave lots of poos on the road,

my father earn 250 yuan per month although he is the manager of a state-own factory. that's about 30-40 USD,but things are cheap! a lollipop is only 5 cents:D my familiy live in a department with two bedrooms, which is also state property,
but around that time, the economy reformation and open policy is already starting to change people's life, i got my frist computer around in 92 or 93? and some businessmen start to using cell-phone, duirng eariler 90s, chinese film association would import ten hollywood films everyyear, and everytime they import those movies, there would be a huge crowd at the cinema.

frist time i heard about micheal jackson was in the middle school, many of my classmates are fans, also, teenagers start to like football, for the frist time in chinese television history, italian world cup was live broadcast...

by the time i grew up, the constuction sites are everywhere in the city, for few years, people went crazy about stock market,although they barely know anything about it.

around that time, for kids, a can of coke is really a treat! it's qutie expensive autcally , 2.5 yuan, i still remember,then i heard something called Mcdonalds and burgers that time, to have a junk food meal is a pretty cool thing for kids to show off.:D

then it came cars, because my father runs a factory, so he have his own bussiness car(well, at same time, a familiy car).
volkswengen,Audi, Toyota are the main car models on the road, you barely saw other brands!

well, i guess that was the time china start to westernlize,

ok, to be continues

Ender Wiggin said:
I have several questions: I consider myself an "apologist" or thats what other people call me anyways ;)

Whenever the topic of China comes up I will generally defend the PRC whenever I see that the discussion is either A) Biased or B) is under a misconception so I strive to correct some.

But i have been asked certain question that while pouring through your constitution haven't been able to answer.

What are the Mobility Rights within the People's Republic? Do all Chinese citizens have the right to live and work in any province and also the right to move to any other province or leave (emmigrate from) the People's Republic? Do they also have the right to be protected from unlawful deportations? And the right to be compensated should they be forced to move from their homes?

well, of course,you can live and work in another city and province, actually most of the works in shanghai and beijing nowadays are from other provinces

this new year, chines transportation had to move 1.7 billion passages(how do you call it 'person time') going or leaving home.

lookandsay said:
我来自中国,我是今天上午通过搜索引擎发现的。我是想来学英语的,同时又对军事比较感兴趣,希望能达到两得的目的。不知道汉字能发过去吗?

当然可以,你要是学英文就别用中文了:D

bd popeye said:
Thank you for your answers. I'm just have long been intrested in what's going on in the PRC.

I do really think there are more internet users in the PRC than anywhere eles. I'm sure I read that somewhere. I can understand the PRC government cracking down on porn..porn is sick!!!. Whatever else they do ..well it's their country they can run it as they see fit.

You cleared some stuff up for me reguarding the purcahse of homes and auto's .I thought only certain citizens could purchase these items. I was wrong about that.

Thanks again!

well, you're welcome, :D but you know what, for chinese kid, perhaps small amount of regular porn will do them some good! because of the china's conservative tradition, chinese parents would never talk to their children about sex, and the schools don't have this kind of education as well! the porn is actually is only 'information' or 'education' they could possibly get!

well, i do sick of chinese censorship, everytime i went back, i can't access some of my favourite websites.

about phurcasing cars and house, well, you don't have to be speical in order to buy them, but if you are just a ordinary worker in beijing or shanghai, there is a good chance that you may never be able to afford a apartment in life time!

and ordinary workers earn about 24,000 yuan per year, but a 100 square meter --apartment in shanghai now cost about 1 million yuan !
so ,yes, only certainly citizens could buy a house, rich citizens!;)

T-U-P said:
i wouldn't call them underground, they're just unofficial. and you're right, pro-government religions are always welcome. as for the buying house part, i've heard (haven't experienced it myself) that you only own the land that your house is on for a certain number of years (99 i think), then the land goes back to the government, not your offsprings. at least that's what i heard, but since im not 99 years old yet, i don't know if it's true or not.

yea, in china, you just buy the house, not the land, the government have the right to take the land back 99 yrs later.but i am not so bothered by this policy, nowaday ,according to chinese city's rebuild speed, no building is going to survive for another century anyway!
 

netspider

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bd popeye said:
I have some questions...As most of you know I'm not Chinese..

I am a Chinese. I was born in China and raised to age 22. I came to US at 2001 and my last visit to China was at 2003.

1. Can any citizen of the PRC establish a church of his own choice reguardless of religion?

Depends on the religion, things could vary between easy and very complicated or impossible. For buddhism, it should be relatively easier to do such a thing. In fact, I remembered there was a time one of our local temples was burned down due to an accident. Some monks came to my house looking for donations to rebuild the temple. My father donated 500 RMB. Later, the temple was rebuilt and we found my father's name was carved on a stone as a generous donator. I have not met anyone believing in other religions in China, but I can say it should be definitely IMPOSSIBLE for FLGers to set up their church (Actually, FLGer do not have church) and complicated for Christians or Muslim to do the similar thing.

2. Can any citizen of the PRC buy a home?

Yes, any citizen of PRC can buy a home. Actually, we can buy as many homes as we want. My father-in-law has two houses.

3. Can any citizen buy a car?

Yes, any citizen can buy a car. My brother has one motocycle and one pickup.

4. Is the internet as "free" (open) as it is in the USA or does the PRC government censor some sites?

Internet is not as open as in USA. In fact, the censorship on Internet is very strict these days. I think many major Chinese news sites and forums are monitored 24 hours a day buy some agents. I used to work at a research institute and we have a bulletin board system over there. The guy sit next to me was the administrator of that BBS. He got calls or emails from some officials asking him to shutdown the site sometimes or delete some posts pretty often. Some sites are blocked also, mostly are political and pornographic sites.

5. Can any citizen of the PRC stand on any "street corner" and and say anti-government sayings ina non threating manner?

The answer to this question is "yes". :) Anyone can do this kind of thing, but you may get yourself a trouble depends on your luck. In a heavily guarded place such as Tiananmen Square, I guess you could get youself pinned down by a police undercover in less than one minute if you do this. However, in the city which I came from, I once saw a middle age person holding a big board at the city government for over a month. I did not know what was really on the board though.
 

T-U-P

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to silverpike:
dude, do you have to make 5 posts in a role? especially your last few were pretty short. take this as an unofficial warning, next time use "EDIT" if you want to add something.
 

silverpike

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netspider said:
The answer to this question is "yes". :) Anyone can do this kind of thing, but you may get yourself a trouble depends on your luck. In a heavily guarded place such as Tiananmen Square, I guess you could get youself pinned down by a police undercover in less than one minute if you do this. However, in the city which I came from, I once saw a middle age person holding a big board at the city government for over a month. I did not know what was really on the board though.

yea, that's ture, in my city, a bunch of farmers protest at the city hall for whole month! they even block the traffic, i heard it was about the government take their land to build factories.

to silverpike:
dude, do you have to make 5 posts in a role? especially your last few were pretty short. take this as an unofficial warning, next time use "EDIT" if you want to add something.

sorry, did know that, won't happen again
 

Azn boi

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Hi I am wondering if you drink any water from any city does it cause diareea?Also I'm wondering like that the gov't have new laws for coal factories to have new rules to reduce the pollution. Does the coal companies obey the laws if they don't does the gov't does anything to make them do it.
 

bd popeye

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Hey silverpike . Dude you are all right to answer those questions. I have been to Hong Kong 3 times while I was with the USN. I know Hong Kong does not count. My son has actually been to mainland China. In 2002. He was on the USS Paul F Foster DD-964 they went to Qingdao. And he and some of his shipmates took a tour of Beijing. He said it was the best cities he has ever been to...
 
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